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In reply to the discussion: Women only: Regarding the use of the term 'girls' to describe women. [View all]BeHereNow
(17,162 posts)283. AS IF this was an actual problem????
WTF?
Compared to the REAL problems on this planet, why is this even
worthy of debate or discussion?
PASS, other than to express my disgust at the continued decline of discussion topics on DU of what MATTERS.
I mean REALLY?
No wonder so many other countries think Americans are self absorbed, delusional IDIOTS.
BHN
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Women only: Regarding the use of the term 'girls' to describe women. [View all]
redqueen
May 2012
OP
and the white male conservative says to maddow.... you girls, .... in order to diminish, dismiss
seabeyond
May 2012
#39
seems to me that you are purposely trying to be sexist. why? what is the pay off for you? nt
seabeyond
May 2012
#56
I find it very offensive of you to accuse another poster of being "a problem" simply for disagreeing
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#75
Since women make up 50% of the population, how are they 'a minority group'?
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#68
Oh no no no... I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say I didn't welcome men to post...
redqueen
May 2012
#45
Yes, you turned women into helpless, powerless victims who can't do anything on their own...
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#190
"You said women can't have any self-confidence because men (the patriarchy) won't let them."
Scout
May 2012
#257
So if someone would refer to you as a girl, you wouldn't be able to 'get into that guys face'?
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#129
I can only imagine that you never take exception when someone says to you
LanternWaste
May 2012
#122
But if someone insisted those terms were belittling or insulting, would you stop using them?
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#130
So if someone told me the word "and" is offensive to them, I should stop using "and"?
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#185
I see "bless your heart" as either genuine concern, or a back-handed compliment
LanternWaste
May 2012
#290
When I was 20, it might have bothered me. Now at 50+ it makes me laugh and smile.
robinlynne
May 2012
#7
When somone is being demeaning, it doesn't matter what term they use. It's demeaning.
robinlynne
May 2012
#8
interesting poll and let me tell you why. what i voted is not specifically how i feel,
seabeyond
May 2012
#10
I always use "women" when we are talking about women. I reserve "girls" for what are really
CTyankee
May 2012
#22
Women are regular people, just like men, and just like men, we have different opinions.
redqueen
May 2012
#15
i dont know. i have a special place in my heart for my father. he was awfully special, too
seabeyond
May 2012
#30
If you are over 30 we can use damsel, under 30 we can use lassie, that work for ya?
snooper2
May 2012
#17
Update's cool but I don't think that works very well on the public internet tubes
snooper2
May 2012
#23
Why would you think I would "diminish" my sister's "worth" by calling her a girl?
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#88
Is your sister an adult? If she is, then yes you risk diminishing her worth by call her a child.
Gormy Cuss
May 2012
#140
I seriously think some posters have disconnected their theoretical views from the real world.
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#193
here's a clue: grown women don't like to be called girls; black men don't like to be called boys
noiretextatique
May 2012
#445
So he understands these terms are used to maintain a group's dominant status...
redqueen
May 2012
#99
They're not *my* theories, just as the definition of a minority group is not *my* definition.
redqueen
May 2012
#110
Okay, then he doesn't agree with SOMEBODY ELSE'S theories that YOU used...
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#113
Be prepared to have your post alerted on because you "don't think women deserve any respect"...
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#92
I attribute this more to young people not knowing better and not being taught these things
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
May 2012
#154
I have a friend in her 30's who still says "I met a boy!!!" and I think it's endearing
Quixote1818
May 2012
#382
It's not the word, but the tone of voice, that tells you if you are being dissed
Demeter
May 2012
#107
I think as long as you don't shove a grapefruit in her face......
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
May 2012
#258
btw... i forgot about your post in all this mess of a thread. i wanted to ask
seabeyond
May 2012
#291
No big deal. No deal at all. I actually have important things to concern myself with.
WillowTree
May 2012
#145
well, then, why did you waste that valuable time to make people laugh on this thread?
CTyankee
May 2012
#307
seaglas, if you have read any of my posts in this thread, you would recognize that i too
seabeyond
May 2012
#337
Well, since it's a public forum it's not technically 'behind their backs'...
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#214
Since we all live in the patriarchy, terms which belittle women are ubiquitous, it is true.
redqueen
May 2012
#186
I use "gentlemen" to open my business emails to address the multiple males on my contact list....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
May 2012
#219
as many posters have said, many of us did not realize the conditioning we have all fallen into using
seabeyond
May 2012
#235
Your question to the other poster specifically said "You don't use the term gentleman".....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
May 2012
#237
you are telling me, when you talk to the men in your office you use gentlemen and not men?
seabeyond
May 2012
#238
you were the one that INSISTED on only THREE women on ALL of du had an issue with girls and ALL the
seabeyond
May 2012
#251
do you need a link. a quote to YOUR statement. talk about fuckin hyperbole. right in
seabeyond
May 2012
#254
i am asking if i can fall in love, another woman is saying mouth dropped open
seabeyond
May 2012
#292
Why is my 'sheer volume of posts' "angry revenge" and, for example, seabeyond's isn't?
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#329
"All black men are potential violent gang members"; "All muslims are potential terrorists"
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#369
You should go to the History of Feminist group if you want to get really sick.
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#374
I don't think saying "balls" when you mean "courage" is appropriate on DU3 anymore.
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#377
Yeah, you'd think that by now, The Patriarchy would have all feminists banned from this website!
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#389
She wasn't replying to that. She was replying to a female DU'er calling all men rapists.
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#396
Either for ONCE, address what I write instead of spamming links or else don't bother me anymore.
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#388
I read that months ago, as did most other feminists, when it was being discussed.
redqueen
May 2012
#390
We have never discussed that before and I was never in a discussion about "all men are rapists"...
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#397
"feeling very 'entitled'." taht would about sum it up and a wonderful learning example
seabeyond
May 2012
#421
The story of a brave, strong young woman standing up to influential powerful men:
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#203
After much consideration, the only place where the use of the words "girl" or "girls" bothers me...
PassingFair
May 2012
#210
In context, it's usually pretty obvious if the intent is informality or insult.
LeftyMom
May 2012
#222
I don't need a high five for joking with my boyfriend. But thanks. Or something.
LeftyMom
May 2012
#269
A fascinating thread...I would never use the term to anyone over 14 but I'm a man....Were I female,
Rowdyboy
May 2012
#227
My dad turns around and looks for his father when anybody says Mr. His Last Name.
LeftyMom
May 2012
#272
Redqueen, HERE is an actual problem, wanna come with some of us to make a difference?
BeHereNow
May 2012
#297
yes. womens issues are often put on the backburner, until they arent. like repug
seabeyond
May 2012
#429
again, man, good of you to let us women know what we should be concerned with
seabeyond
May 2012
#431
I'm reminded of the time Lynette Fromm (attempted assassin of Gerald Ford)
Lydia Leftcoast
May 2012
#293
Yeah, interesting that somebody was upset by the 'belittling' of an assassin.
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#305
it is good to see you finally admit calling a woman a girl is belittling. i knew you would come to
seabeyond
May 2012
#312
you go in every direction, yet still.... you refuse to own up to a couple simple words. wrong.
seabeyond
May 2012
#314
And this is the SECOND flame-fest you instigated that you may continue all by yourself!
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#315
why wont you simply acknowledge there are more than three people in all of du that disagree with you
seabeyond
May 2012
#316
I find that using the terms young men and young women acknowledges the professional
Luminous Animal
May 2012
#352
A friend of mine referred to my 22 year old daughter as a "girl" and in the same sentence,
Luminous Animal
May 2012
#355
I don't have a problem with the term "girl" as long as it's being used by other women.
Beacool
May 2012
#317
There are more user names with "girl" in them in the offensive option.
FedUpWithIt All
May 2012
#332
All about the individual. Society? pff. And apparently 'words have meaning' ONLY
redqueen
May 2012
#343
I'm not interested in the attemps to switch out "their conditioning" for "your conditioning"
FedUpWithIt All
May 2012
#356
What do you think of another woman telling you that you are "conditioned" & thus should be educated?
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#370
Apparently i find it offensive. I also find much of what you post offensive.
FedUpWithIt All
May 2012
#418
"Taking offense" at anything is something I don't care about and don't do.
Waiting For Everyman
May 2012
#349
Goes without saying, the only ones who should be referred as girls, are well
nadinbrzezinski
May 2012
#363
I usually use the term "women" but always feel like I am making them feel old when I do that
Quixote1818
May 2012
#378
yes... tell me, why do you want to interfer with women discussing their feelings on an issue
seabeyond
May 2012
#395
Well, a woman in this thread was told by a feminist that "she had serious self-respect issues"
DutchLiberal
May 2012
#398
and a 139 women on this thread have said it is offensive when a man uses girl to be condescending
seabeyond
May 2012
#400
And you seem to be missing that over 40 women polled that it was NOT offensive
FedUpWithIt All
May 2012
#417
The Women's rights post-ers that remain are doing plenty of good posting, though.
Mc Mike
May 2012
#437
of course i dont forget the 40 or so women that do not have an issue at all with girls.
seabeyond
May 2012
#423
i asked you a question. that would be the opposite of asking you to "shut up". so no....
seabeyond
May 2012
#402
ah hahah. "I would be admitting my intention was to interfere " and by gosh, you certainly
seabeyond
May 2012
#405
maybe if men wouldnt be so predictable at doing just that, you know, that old conditioning
seabeyond
May 2012
#407
Sounds to me like he was criticizing women who internalized the patriarchy's values.
redqueen
May 2012
#448
true that, but that is an interesting point. the poster above saying a compliment
seabeyond
May 2012
#451
btw, more and more men are getting into the poll voting they dont mind being called girl
seabeyond
May 2012
#452