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Gregorian

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16. Fortunately, this was the mindset of the neighborhood in which I grew up.
Mon May 25, 2015, 12:05 PM
May 2015

Last edited Mon May 25, 2015, 12:41 PM - Edit history (1)

I grew up knowing better. And my dad grew up in poverty, so it wasn't like we had some lineage of bright people. I am totally anti-military. I'll go as far as to say that if we want to win some war on terror, all we have to do is stop being shitheads.

Vietnam was winding down, but the threat of being drafted still existed. One neighbor moved to Canada, where he lives to this day. Both my friend across the street, and me were preparing our CO status.

I still cannot believe the blindness of the human being towards several totally obvious things, war being one. The other is energy related. It's this ignorance that will end us all if we don't grow up.

Edit- As I digested more of this topic I asked what can be done to help others see the folly and tragedy of war even though it is glorified by the profiteers. First, when I was just a young child my father warned me that much of the history I would learn in school revolved around war. He used to lament that history defaulted to war. Even in university level history, I was dismayed that it was all WAR. I did not do well in that course. So how do we get other to see? This is where, I believe, the notion of trickle down really does work. Knowledge works that way. And I also believe that our schools are designed to keep people submissive. But the molding of society into submissiveness is also at the corporate level. Buy this, buy that. It may seem benign, but it plays on a subconscious level of the human that subtracts from independent thinking.

We were not fooled. And why is that? This is critically important, because it covers almost everything one does in life. Can I dissect what is coming at me. This is why when talking with my father before Bush stole office, he said "here come the wars". Now how did we know that? If more people had known that, there would never have been a close election. But it goes further than that. This kind of consciousness expands to include many other areas in life. Should I take care of my body? Should I take care of my community? Should I be careful with the energy I use. It all adds up to who is in control. Either I am in control, or some outside force is.

War [View all] H2O Man May 2015 OP
"Fuck George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and the rest of those shitheads" Sunlei May 2015 #1
I so agree. 99Forever May 2015 #2
Well said H2O Man, well said. GGJohn May 2015 #3
... GGJohn May 2015 #4
To assert the political will of the US over other people hootinholler May 2015 #5
K & R !! davekriss May 2015 #6
the bush* administration shit on america's soldiers.... spanone May 2015 #7
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP May 2015 #8
Harold Pinter - Nobel Lecture on Truth, War and the Big Lie Octafish May 2015 #9
One thing we tend to forget... malthaussen May 2015 #10
K&R nt napkinz May 2015 #11
How do we fix this? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #12
Two words: JOBS and EDUCATION BrotherIvan May 2015 #37
The Ground Truth: After the Killing Ends… The military teaches you to be a killer. Agony May 2015 #13
Here we catch a glimpse of the soul of a true patriot. joanbarnes May 2015 #14
Excellent clip. If kids really want to be heroes, they won't support the MIC. nt valerief May 2015 #15
Fortunately, this was the mindset of the neighborhood in which I grew up. Gregorian May 2015 #16
I wish I had answers for you..... llmart May 2015 #24
Consciousness of the truth. Gregorian May 2015 #33
I understand how you feel..... llmart May 2015 #35
A transformation story. Gregorian May 2015 #38
Very eloquent. llmart May 2015 #41
"what is it good for? absolutely nothing" NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #17
Truer truth could never be uttered...n/t N_E_1 for Tennis May 2015 #18
The only real threat to the Constitution 2naSalit May 2015 #19
WAS the threat....war's over man, and THEY won. Moostache May 2015 #26
Thank you for that post dreamnightwind May 2015 #43
What is it good for? nt Rex May 2015 #20
This devastates me. LWolf May 2015 #21
Well put! dpatbrown May 2015 #22
K&R. Well said. Overseas May 2015 #23
ALL of our younglings should hear the sage words of this brave man. chervilant May 2015 #25
This is outstanding. nt. polly7 May 2015 #27
Simple solution, anyone voting for war or sending troops has to send their son or daughter or randys1 May 2015 #28
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious May 2015 #29
And fuck the Big Media that enabled it all. johnnyreb May 2015 #30
Thank you, H20 Man! Peace Patriot May 2015 #31
Thank you. H2O Man May 2015 #32
War is an admission of failure madokie May 2015 #34
It's also just theft and murder dreamnightwind May 2015 #44
Should be required viewing for any teen 7wo7rees May 2015 #36
Welcome to the dark side seveneyes May 2015 #39
And then some malaise May 2015 #40
When I hear someone is considering joining the military, I suggest they first volunteer .... Scuba May 2015 #42
We must all refuse to participate in the billionaire's ugly system. That is how we end war. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #45
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