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Moostache

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26. WAS the threat....war's over man, and THEY won.
Mon May 25, 2015, 01:43 PM
May 2015

The military now is nothing more than an modern reincarnation of the Knight's Templar at their utter worst. A gang sent out to do the bidding and die by men who care nothing of them, the suffering of others or the rest of humanity.

I am haunted by a conversation I had in September 2001 shortly after 9/11. I was discussing the events with a group of people and they ALL were saying this meant "war", but when I pressed them on that idea, when I asked "War against who?", all I got in return was a lot of anger and thirst for vengeance but nothing more than the emerging company line "war on terror". These were educated, rational people and I could not reach them through their fear. They were scared to death of more terrorism and when I pressed further with the root of this anger towards America things got to a pitch that was terribly uncomfortable and led to some lost friendships.

I knew then, going on 14 years ago already, that we were in deep shit. I've seen nothing to date to make me think otherwise, only reinforcement that we are under the boot of the corporations and their interests outweigh EVERYTHING else - people, communities, families, justice, peace...you name it. If it is not in service of greater profits, it is not defended.

That war is over and we all lost massively. We now live under occupation until critical mass is reached and the push for change can no longer be suppressed. Occupy was crushed and now marginalized. It will take something orders of magnitude more than Occupy to end this reign of the corporate greed and stop their war machine.

War [View all] H2O Man May 2015 OP
"Fuck George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and the rest of those shitheads" Sunlei May 2015 #1
I so agree. 99Forever May 2015 #2
Well said H2O Man, well said. GGJohn May 2015 #3
... GGJohn May 2015 #4
To assert the political will of the US over other people hootinholler May 2015 #5
K & R !! davekriss May 2015 #6
the bush* administration shit on america's soldiers.... spanone May 2015 #7
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP May 2015 #8
Harold Pinter - Nobel Lecture on Truth, War and the Big Lie Octafish May 2015 #9
One thing we tend to forget... malthaussen May 2015 #10
K&R nt napkinz May 2015 #11
How do we fix this? MannyGoldstein May 2015 #12
Two words: JOBS and EDUCATION BrotherIvan May 2015 #37
The Ground Truth: After the Killing Ends… The military teaches you to be a killer. Agony May 2015 #13
Here we catch a glimpse of the soul of a true patriot. joanbarnes May 2015 #14
Excellent clip. If kids really want to be heroes, they won't support the MIC. nt valerief May 2015 #15
Fortunately, this was the mindset of the neighborhood in which I grew up. Gregorian May 2015 #16
I wish I had answers for you..... llmart May 2015 #24
Consciousness of the truth. Gregorian May 2015 #33
I understand how you feel..... llmart May 2015 #35
A transformation story. Gregorian May 2015 #38
Very eloquent. llmart May 2015 #41
"what is it good for? absolutely nothing" NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #17
Truer truth could never be uttered...n/t N_E_1 for Tennis May 2015 #18
The only real threat to the Constitution 2naSalit May 2015 #19
WAS the threat....war's over man, and THEY won. Moostache May 2015 #26
Thank you for that post dreamnightwind May 2015 #43
What is it good for? nt Rex May 2015 #20
This devastates me. LWolf May 2015 #21
Well put! dpatbrown May 2015 #22
K&R. Well said. Overseas May 2015 #23
ALL of our younglings should hear the sage words of this brave man. chervilant May 2015 #25
This is outstanding. nt. polly7 May 2015 #27
Simple solution, anyone voting for war or sending troops has to send their son or daughter or randys1 May 2015 #28
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious May 2015 #29
And fuck the Big Media that enabled it all. johnnyreb May 2015 #30
Thank you, H20 Man! Peace Patriot May 2015 #31
Thank you. H2O Man May 2015 #32
War is an admission of failure madokie May 2015 #34
It's also just theft and murder dreamnightwind May 2015 #44
Should be required viewing for any teen 7wo7rees May 2015 #36
Welcome to the dark side seveneyes May 2015 #39
And then some malaise May 2015 #40
When I hear someone is considering joining the military, I suggest they first volunteer .... Scuba May 2015 #42
We must all refuse to participate in the billionaire's ugly system. That is how we end war. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #45
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