In the discussion thread: If Jenner can be a woman while still sporting a penis, why can't Rachel Dolezal be African American? [View all]
Response to lovemydog (Reply #313)
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 09:08 AM
whathehell (24,027 posts)
367. I'm afraid it is, and if you had "listened and learned" from a larger pool of people,
and I am talking about people of color, like MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry for one,
who are responding to the Dolezar case, you would find that the trans-racial question is still being discussed, with no "correct" or final word on its legitimacy yet established. Firstl of all, you might recall that the NAACP itself issued a statement supporting Rachel Dolezar. It seems they were more concerned with her work than with her self-identification. If you watched Melissa Harris-Perry's televised interview with Ms. Dolezar last night, you would have learned that Ms. Harris-Perry is sympathetic to Ms. Dolezar. Her disclosure to Chris Hayes that she is "fighting with my friends", gives further evidence that the matter is still "under discussion", making final conclusions at this point, premature. My personal opinion of Ms. Dolezar is that she is emotionally disturbed, but that is irrelevant. My problem here is with all those who are insisting on closing the discussion at such an early juncture. Excuse me, but as progressives, are we not supposed keep open minds? I find the angry demand to shut down the entire discussion disturbing and very much at odds with those values. |
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