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H2O Man

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Tue Jun 23, 2015, 03:02 PM Jun 2015

What ever happened to DU's H2O Man? [View all]

[A] Strength vs. Power: What is Behind Them

National Geographic: “What is the greatest power?”

Tadodaho Leon Shenandoah: “I myself have no power. It’s the people behind me who have the power. Real power comes from the Creator. It’s in His hands. But if you’re asking about strength, not power, than I can say that the greatest strength is gentleness.”


Sometimes when I read a number of OP/threads on DU:GD, I imagine this forum as a model of the human brain. Various forum members make contributions that I apply to various sections of that brain, including from the most evolved layers that distinguish our species from all of our relatives on earth. Others contribute thoughts or feelings that I attribute to the various other sections, right down to the bulb of our brain’s stem.

When that joyous season we call “the presidential primaries” come around, it is if they “waking brain” and the “sleeping brain” (highly technical terms, I know) are both turned on and highly active, both simultaneously and at the same time (one descriptive term for each level). The tensions between the two are charged by the various electrical impulses that energize the forum/brain.

Often, one section of the community will say, “But DU does not represent the United States electorate.” I say, “Thank goodness!” Could you imagine if we were condemned to spend time inside a republican party brain? Yikes! Far more pleasurable to be here.

Even in this DU brain, we note that some segments, or sub-systems, are convinced that they are the “real” form of high consciousness, and thus attempt to silence what they view as annoying thoughts that keep popping up. Thus, we see that a lot of the primary debates tend to be less about the individual candidate, and more about the individual(s) behind them. And that’s good, for we should know who supports what candidate, and why.

In fact, when we are deciding upon who will be president, we should consider who is behind their campaigns, and why.


Respect

Onondaga Chief Paul Waterman: “It’s hard for people from one culture to really understand another. There’s a site in West Virginia, where I have been asked to rebury 664 remains. But they are held in an Ohio museum. The people in Ohio asked me why I want to rebury people in West Virginia. And here I was wondering why they want to dig them up?

“I’m not sure everything can be explained. Some things you either understand, or you just don’t. Maybe the goal should be to teach respect for other people, even if you don’t fully understand them.”


When I read something on DU:GD, no matter if I agree or disagree with it, I tend to try to assign it to some reference point -- or, “file” -- in my brain. Frequently, I’m able to do that with some degree of accuracy. I “know” some people here, and am familiar enough with certain topics, that I am comfortable in doing that. I assume that I know what they are “really saying.” The problem in doing that -- both here and in real life -- is that sometimes I’m wrong. That’s part of being human, of course; the only people who honestly believe they approach every person and topic with a completely open mind are those incapable of being fully honest with themselves.

No matter if I am fully correct, totally incorrect, or somewhere in that wide range found in between, I have the constant option of having respect for the other person ….if not his or her opinion or actions. That, of course, can be difficult. Sometimes, very difficult -- for example, there are some issues that I think are really clear-cut, and that strike an emotional reaction. Usually, these are issues in which a person’s opinion is closely related to actions that cause some type of injury to others. These can range from people who attempt to justify violence -- from adults who hit kids, to those who advocate war -- to those who seek financial profit from engaging in the destruction of the living environment. “Fracking,” for example, poisons the water that sustains life on earth.

Yet there are many areas where disagreements are not so clearly defined, where there is not only one “correct” answer, or where there really isn’t a “wrong” answer. Thus, because other forum members have had different life-experiences than me, they are going to process some of the same information as me in a very different way. They have different “files” or reference points built into their gray matter. We all do, and that’s a good thing.

Recently, while discussing an area where I have disagreement -- strong disagreement -- with a small group of people who live in my area, my younger son reminded me of something. He said that I have to remember that most people did not grow up with mentors such as Leon Shenandoah, Paul Waterman, or Rubin Carter. Much less all three. So the chances of them viewing the issues in the same way, were rather small. And that even if I was convinced that I was 100% correct, I needed to listen closely to those other people. That I might even learn something.

Peace,
H2O Man

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Hi and thanks. mmonk Jun 2015 #1
Hey! H2O Man Jun 2015 #2
Well that's how me and you are you know. mmonk Jun 2015 #4
That's what H2O Man Jun 2015 #23
To paraphrase a line from a movie... kentuck Jun 2015 #3
Amen mmonk Jun 2015 #5
Thanks, Brother Kentuck! H2O Man Jun 2015 #24
How ya doin' ? kentuck Jun 2015 #36
I'm good! H2O Man Jun 2015 #40
as always, thanks, kick and rec NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #6
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2015 #25
There are two ways of looking at water bodies RobertEarl Jun 2015 #7
Outstanding! H2O Man Jun 2015 #26
Recommending this post as well, perfect AuntPatsy Jun 2015 #31
amen G_j Jun 2015 #8
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2015 #27
RIP, H20 Man. You will be missed. randome Jun 2015 #9
I miss him already! H2O Man Jun 2015 #28
Time will heal all wounds... kentuck Jun 2015 #41
And, as John Lennon said, H2O Man Jun 2015 #42
I recall reading he was moving to Ireland Hoppy Jun 2015 #10
November. H2O Man Jun 2015 #29
What is the status of the road rage murder trial? Hoppy Jun 2015 #47
I wonder sometimes if there were no political parties how people would respond to certain issues. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #11
Right! H2O Man Jun 2015 #32
I found his last posting: Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2015 #12
Yay! I was getting worried. calimary Jun 2015 #21
I think that H2O Man Jun 2015 #34
Awww... calimary Jun 2015 #46
Very nice! H2O Man Jun 2015 #49
Thank goodness! H2O Man Jun 2015 #33
Great power Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #13
Exactly! H2O Man Jun 2015 #35
"but if you're asking about strength, not power, then I can say that the greatest strength is panader0 Jun 2015 #14
Uncle Leon was H2O Man Jun 2015 #39
Four letters on his gravestone... Flying Squirrel Jun 2015 #15
He was an odd fellow ..... H2O Man Jun 2015 #43
I think you hit on something there. zeemike Jun 2015 #16
+1 mmonk Jun 2015 #17
Right. H2O Man Jun 2015 #50
I never got a chance to see that series. zeemike Jun 2015 #56
pshaw--even sheep have a neocortex! (KnR) MisterP Jun 2015 #18
Even Richard Nixon has got soul. H2O Man Jun 2015 #51
It seems your younger son annabanana Jun 2015 #19
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2015 #52
Always the Voice Of Reason. Thank you. byronius Jun 2015 #20
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2015 #53
I think Aretha agrees with you. malthaussen Jun 2015 #22
Beautiful! H2O Man Jun 2015 #54
I'm always puzzled by lack of respect... malthaussen Jun 2015 #55
Writing thought provoking honest and sincere ops for us to enjoy, last. Heard AuntPatsy Jun 2015 #30
Makes me remember D. Ray White seveneyes Jun 2015 #37
Thank you H2O Man. lovemydog Jun 2015 #38
Mentors, routinely have been marginalized, defamed or silenced for many years. kickysnana Jun 2015 #44
KnR, H2O Man. I always read your posts. Hekate Jun 2015 #45
I mentioned you in a reply a couple of days ago.. see it here... Ghost in the Machine Jun 2015 #48
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