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JDPriestly

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22. Here is a difference.

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:11 PM

Nov 2015

In war, the goal is to push the other side to admit defeat and negotiate peace.

The first targets are military ones. The point is to disarm not destroy the civilian population. The military that can strike back at the attackers are the first targets for that reason.

ISIS in France attacked civilian targets -- helpless, unsuspecting, unprepared and UNARMED civilians.

Attacking civilians for the sake of killing and terrorizing a population is an act of cowardice. It is also an act of cruel aggression. It is an act of war.

The bombings by western military organizations are usually strategically organized and prioritized to focus first on targets that a country might use for defense or aggression -- military targets.

ISIS action was cowardly and intended to incite retaliation. It was and it will.

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Great Toon on the roots of ISIS: [View all] CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2015 OP

All thanks to George Bush and Dick Cheney. Rex Nov 2015 #1

And Hillary Clinton and John Kerry and Joe Biden WDIM Nov 2015 #6

Correct. 840high Nov 2015 #15

Amazing how much damage the neocons are still doing even with Democratic Administrations newthinking Nov 2015 #39

Yes, Dem's aren't immune from hearing war drums beating packman Nov 2015 #42

And the Rendon group. lostnfound Nov 2015 #35

Words have consequences. "Bring it on!", "Smoke 'em out!" "Let's Roll". Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #2

Which french politicians said those things 2003? GummyBearz Nov 2015 #3

And then the French bombed Libya and Syria. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #4

I just read that GummyBearz Nov 2015 #7

:facepalm: jeff47 Nov 2015 #8

Not sure where you are going GummyBearz Nov 2015 #10

No, you pretended nothing happened since the Iraq war jeff47 Nov 2015 #11

So who did france bomb GummyBearz Nov 2015 #12

France among others, supported jihadis to overthrow Gadaffi CJCRANE Nov 2015 #17

The attack in Paris was an act of war. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #19

That doesn't negate what I said. If you arm jihadis, then open your borders CJCRANE Nov 2015 #20

Yes. No Werstern country should be arming people in the Middle East. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #25

They were not seeking out potentially armed victims. They were seeking civilian victims. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #33

+1,000 malaise Nov 2015 #44

Because ISIS are well known for sticking to the "rules of war". jeff47 Nov 2015 #28

Here is a difference. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #22

You seem to mistake that comment for excusing ISIS for their attack. jeff47 Nov 2015 #26

I agree with you. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #27

The French were more sane than us in 2003. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #5

Wait ejbr Nov 2015 #13

Read the April 2004 article in Vanity Fair about the beginning of the War in Iraq. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #24

+1 n/t ejbr Nov 2015 #34

"Let's Roll" was in an ENTIRELY different context (maybe later misused). maddiemom Nov 2015 #32

Great cartoon Gothmog Nov 2015 #9

Very true! hedgehog Nov 2015 #14

Remember Rotegard Nov 2015 #16

I will never forget that. They WANT us to forget, but they don't get it, how can anyone sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #38

Bernie was one of the few to ask what would happen after we invaded. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #18

kick Angry Dragon Nov 2015 #21

Yep. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #40

thanks for the clip Angry Dragon Nov 2015 #46

You're welcome. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #47

Totally nailed it! geardaddy Nov 2015 #23

Today's history lesson hifiguy Nov 2015 #29

So basically western intervention destabalized the middle east d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #30

Yup! SoapBox Nov 2015 #31

We don't need it rpannier Nov 2015 #36

Yeah! And there was dancing in the streets... KansDem Nov 2015 #43

And ordinary people predicted it. Yet some of our so called very smart Reps, did not! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #37

Wow, Peggy, proud to K&R this yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #41

One of my larger geopolitical mistakes. malthaussen Nov 2015 #45