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cpwm17

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31. Saudi Arabia is one of the villains in this equation.

Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:18 PM

Dec 2015

The US and Israel are also major players in the destruction of the Middle East. If you could turn back the clock and eliminate those three nations' influence from the region, current history would change very much for the better – though other nations may have entered the void.

Inevitably when powerful nations spend a lot of time brutalizing weaker nations a lot of bad will happen. A more extreme case was Cambodia after Nixon bombed the shit out of that nation. It allowed the Khmer Rouge to gain power. The Khmer Rouge was a small movement that would never have taken control without the mass slaughter and destruction of farm lands by the US.

Much of the Middle East had a diverse population, and some still has, that has managed to mostly get along for centuries. Why did they suddenly fall apart when the US started supporting and arming brutal leaders and religious kooks, and overthrowing secular leaders? Is that just a coincidence? Obviously it isn't a coincidence.

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4 Million Muslims Killed In Western Wars: Should We Call It Genocide? Aug 2015 [View all] mitty14u2 Dec 2015 OP

It could be Kalidurga Dec 2015 #1

Right now we are not in a major leadership role on the war overseas yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #2

We still have too many bases Kalidurga Dec 2015 #5

During the Iran-Iraq War, the Reagan-Bush Admin. was open leveymg Dec 2015 #3

The 4M figure is pure crap Yorktown Dec 2015 #4

Really now malaise Dec 2015 #6

If I sell a gun to someone who ends up using it, am I a murderer? Yorktown Dec 2015 #7

Murderer? Some here say yes. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #13

Well, these folks are extreme. Yorktown Dec 2015 #14

Only some. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #17

Back to your original point to me Yorktown Dec 2015 #18

I am a non-murderous gun owner. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #24

The US deliberately seeks out and arms the worst elements in the Middle East. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #25

It is arrogance to believe everyone is a puppet of the malefic USA empire Yorktown Dec 2015 #30

Saudi Arabia is one of the villains in this equation. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #31

The decadence of the Muslim world started before the USA even existed Yorktown Dec 2015 #32

No, 'genocide' involves intention and agency muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #9

Well credible sources suggest that over one million malaise Dec 2015 #10

mostly by, as I said, other Muslims muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #12

Hear, hear. Yorktown Dec 2015 #15

Where did Saddam get that gas? The West provided it so Iraq could gas Iranians. leveymg Dec 2015 #22

It would be interesting to see how much Muslims were killed due to the policies of the Assad, still_one Dec 2015 #27

Add to that the 1 to 1.5 million Afghans killed during the Soviet invasion and occupation. n/t pampango Dec 2015 #8

Sure we should. Absolutely. nt. polly7 Dec 2015 #11

What does the term Genocide refer to? I thought it was a deliberate attempt to eradicate a el_bryanto Dec 2015 #16

Genocidal activities include arming and assisting ethnic groups trying to wipe out rival ethnics. leveymg Dec 2015 #23

If it was genocide, we'd have finished the job in a month. randome Dec 2015 #19

No. kiva Dec 2015 #20

For oil. Octafish Dec 2015 #21

No Marrah_G Dec 2015 #26

Muslims don't need the West to kill each other. Throd Dec 2015 #28

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #29