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FrodosPet

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77. What is your analysis of the following Quran verses and Hadiths?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:00 PM
Dec 2015
Qu'ran

http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/002-qmt.php#002.190

002.190
Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.


002.191
And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.


002.216
Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.


http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/005-qmt.php#005.033

005.033
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;


005.038
As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.

http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/008-qmt.php#008.012

008.012
Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."


008.038
Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them).

008.039
And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.


008.060
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.


http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/009-qmt.php#009.005

009.005
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.


009.014
Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,


009.029
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.


009.123
O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.


http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/017-qmt.php#017.016

017.016
When We decide to destroy a population, We (first) send a definite order to those among them who are given the good things of this life and yet transgress; so that the word is proved true against them: then (it is) We destroy them utterly.


Hadiths

http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/052-sbt.php#004.052.177

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."


Volume 4, Book 52, Number 179:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."



Volume 4, Book 52, Number 182:
Narrated 'Ali:

When it was the day of the battle of Al-Ahzab (i.e. the clans), Allah's Apostle said, "O Allah! Fill their (i.e. the infidels') houses and graves with fire as they busied us so much that we did not perform the prayer (i.e. 'Asr) till the sun set."


Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256:
Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:

The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle."


http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/019-smt.php#019.4321

Book 019, Number 4321:
It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.


http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/019-smt.php#019.4294

Book 019, Number 4294:
It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. Then invite them to migrate from their lands to the land of Muhairs and inform them that, if they do so, they shall have all the privileges and obligations of the Muhajirs. If they refuse to migrate, tell them that they will have the status of Bedouin Muilims and will be subjected to the Commands of Allah like other Muslims, but they will not get any share from the spoils of war or Fai' except when they actually fight with the Muslims (against the disbelievers). If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them. When you lay siege to a fort and the besieged appeal to you for protection in the name of Allah and His Prophet, do not accord to them the guarantee of Allah and His Prophet, but accord to them your own guarantee and the guarantee of your companions for it is a lesser sin that the security given by you or your companions be disregarded than that the security granted in the name of Allah and His Prophet be violated When you besiege a fort and the besieged want you to let them out in accordance with Allah's Command, do not let them come out in accordance with His Command, but do so at your (own) command, for you do not know whether or not you will be able to carry out Allah's behest with regard to them.
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We have run a few pieces at RSD on this theme nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #74
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Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #11
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Why do you put "jihadists" in quotation marks? Yorktown Dec 2015 #27
Because the bomb threat was FAKE!!! pnwmom Dec 2015 #29
And? Yorktown Dec 2015 #43
You wouldn't, I would. Big deal. n/t pnwmom Dec 2015 #44
Riiiight loyalsister Dec 2015 #32
The incident with the fake school bomb threats in NY and CA involved 700,000 in CA alone, pnwmom Dec 2015 #34
If she is so vacuous that she forgot loyalsister Dec 2015 #37
700,000 thousand SCHOOL KIDS in Los Angeles had just been threatened pnwmom Dec 2015 #41
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that would be national pentagon radio, correct? - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #55
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When the Left don't want to call Islam out for being regressive and violent, what do you expect? frizzled Dec 2015 #30
So it is the liberals' and the Muslims' fault for Trump's popularity cpwm17 Dec 2015 #39
You mean the same liberals who love to bomb and drone the Muslim world? frizzled Dec 2015 #40
So there's a grain of truth there, but as usual, people (on the right especially) are just too damn nomorenomore08 Dec 2015 #42
Not everybody that puts a D by their name is a liberal. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #73
Islamophobic, much? - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #56
Double standard, much? frizzled Dec 2015 #62
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I never get why people think it's unfair to do this... frizzled Dec 2015 #64
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I'm speaking of the present day situation - Islam is certainly not inherently backward frizzled Dec 2015 #66
What is your analysis of the following Quran verses and Hadiths? FrodosPet Dec 2015 #77
I don't think you know enough about Islam treestar Dec 2015 #71
And here folks is classic propaganda at work or the success of it nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #76
you're equating "Muslim" with the radical jihadists treestar Dec 2015 #70
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"some stereotypes are statistically valid". And they make life a lot 'simpler' too. pampango Dec 2015 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Dec 2015 #36
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