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66. Meh, Fort Sumter is just a tiny little fort in Charleston Harbor incapable of defending anything or

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:15 AM

Jan 2016

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anyone. Why don't we just surrender it and let the bunch of idiots there have their way?

~Heard around many a Northern (and Western) campfire and household hearth in 1861.

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Am I the only one who does not understand why none of these idiots are being arrested? [View all] Logical Jan 2016 OP

No, you're not. stage left Jan 2016 #1

+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #25

Because they have guns too! Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #54

No I don't wonder why they aren't being arrested Kalidurga Jan 2016 #2

Here's why: At this point these guys don't pose a danger. Escalating the situation won't escalate underahedgerow Jan 2016 #50

Armed men actively breaking the law are not a danger CanonRay Jan 2016 #56

Who are they endangering? They're alone, in the effing wilderness, miles from anyone. underahedgerow Jan 2016 #59

Apparently the school district thinks they are a danger CanonRay Jan 2016 #63

Which is an excess of caution on their part... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #89

Yes one where the RWing ammo lovers can drive in and out without a care in the world Rex Jan 2016 #93

They need to cut off all access, like yesterday. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #99

That has my mind boggled, why would you not secure the area? Rex Jan 2016 #100

What about them breaking into employee lockers and accessing government computers as doc03 Jan 2016 #78

And if they were Black they would all be dead or in jail by now. randys1 Jan 2016 #101

The FBI is in charge at the scene. That means the DOJ. That means Obama. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #107

Yep. If they were Native Americans, they would have been hauled out in chains. ladyVet Jan 2016 #147

Have you read about them accessing the computers there, which hold private information? uppityperson Jan 2016 #120

And? Sorry, it's not a big deal, other than their own liability for further criminal charges. underahedgerow Jan 2016 #128

Stealing privileged information is "not a big deal"? And the old "if they'd wanted to be safe, uppityperson Jan 2016 #130

Um these guys couldn't pack enough snacks and socks. What are they going to do with underahedgerow Jan 2016 #134

Dichotomous thinking. eom uppityperson Jan 2016 #136

It's LOGICAL thinking. It's not knee jerk reaction, it's thinking about what the actual, genuine underahedgerow Jan 2016 #145

They're endangering the rule of law meow2u3 Jan 2016 #131

Who says to let them get away with it? It took years to put OJ Simpson in jail, ultimately for underahedgerow Jan 2016 #144

tell that to the school system that is shut down right now dsc Jan 2016 #58

Meh, the command center can be moved to a mobile home, which will probably happen underahedgerow Jan 2016 #64

Yep! dgibby Jan 2016 #79

They'll be prosecuted...like Cliven Bundy was? truebluegreen Jan 2016 #181

Or executed extra-judicially - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #65

That is one big part of it. RWing angry white types with guns get a free pass. Rex Jan 2016 #95

selective justice. spanone Jan 2016 #3

The difference is they are armed passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #15

People who are armed or who the police assumed to be armed Chakab Jan 2016 #24

Some LEOs already did get killed. Two of Clive Bundy's posse murdered a couple of tblue37 Jan 2016 #118

They are armed and white. rusty quoin Jan 2016 #28

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #74

Too true. Rex Jan 2016 #96

And they are setting up armed roadblock checkpoints on public roads. Jeezus. cheapdate Jan 2016 #4

So true, this is almost unbelievable to me. Imagine if BLM tried this ANYWHERE! Peacefully! nt Logical Jan 2016 #5

Come here and find out. But don't expect a free ranch. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #6

That is true! nt Logical Jan 2016 #7

My guess is Egnever Jan 2016 #8

So just let this go on forever, let them resupply forever? Sounds like a great plan. nt Logical Jan 2016 #10

Gotta love that american instant gratification Egnever Jan 2016 #71

LOL, so at some point you change your plan? Brilliant! nt Logical Jan 2016 #73

What makes you think it is my plan? Egnever Jan 2016 #75

Definitely need to cut off resupply. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #91

They can't last that long. Everyone will get bored and drunk, tensions will rise when they see that underahedgerow Jan 2016 #108

they are supposedly setting up 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #17

bully for them Egnever Jan 2016 #72

Becuase they are attracting other clowns to their circus rpannier Jan 2016 #19

You have the perfect public reaction underthematrix Jan 2016 #40

Sounds like a great way to gather the malcontents in one spot where they can't hurt anyone Egnever Jan 2016 #70

Or where they are easily rounded up for arrest? csziggy Jan 2016 #135

Meh, Fort Sumter is just a tiny little fort in Charleston Harbor incapable of defending anything or KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #66

If these idiots want to create a little slice of dumbfuckistan in the middle of no where Egnever Jan 2016 #69

Exactly. They are looking more and more idiotic by the day. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #82

Can we at least keep them fenced in? - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #87

That "little slice" is FEDERAL LAND. This is about what the United States is as a country. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #110

The Government is acting as if it wants this to turn into another INdemo Jan 2016 #9

I disagree. I believe law enforcement is attempting to prevent another Waco or Ruby Ridge. branford Jan 2016 #33

Agree 100% Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #36

No one of significance is currently supporting these idiots, branford Jan 2016 #39

What's your position if one of the armed racist militia types draws down on a federal agent like at Hoyt Jan 2016 #42

If they actually, legitimately endanger someone, branford Jan 2016 #47

Several of the Bundy gang aimed guns at federal agents during the Bundy Ranch standoff peacebird Jan 2016 #55

Its kind of hard to make that claim that without looking through their scopes/sights. beevul Jan 2016 #109

Pointing a gun at federal agents and threatening them IS aiming a gun at them peacebird Jan 2016 #113

I'm not sure what the law actually says. beevul Jan 2016 #117

In most states you don't have to point the weapon Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #142

I totally agree. underthematrix Jan 2016 #43

They neither harmed nor directly threatened anyone, PADemD Jan 2016 #48

They've harmed everyone who might want to visit the refuge. AZCat Jan 2016 #119

Of course, they've harmed everyone. PADemD Jan 2016 #121

Ah, apologies. AZCat Jan 2016 #124

They've accessed government computers/info, they are vagrants and who exactly KittyWampus Jan 2016 #112

A LOT of people here on DU have demanded raids or worse. branford Jan 2016 #125

What IS it with dichotomous thinking? Either leave them alone or go in guns ablazing? uppityperson Jan 2016 #132

Few people are suggesting doing nothing, and a lot of people do view the matter in a binary fashion. branford Jan 2016 #140

They could have arrested Koresh when he was in town. Instead, they hit the compound. ieoeja Jan 2016 #183

By not confronting them and opening fire on them? underthematrix Jan 2016 #41

More like they are scared of that treestar Jan 2016 #103

If you read about Germany in the 30s, you'll find that most laws against Doctor_J Jan 2016 #11

Yes. You are right. They hit the left hard rusty quoin Jan 2016 #32

Here! pacalo Jan 2016 #12

I'm taking that, OK? bvf Jan 2016 #20

You're very welcome to it, bvf. pacalo Jan 2016 #29

Thank you. bvf Jan 2016 #37

... And why it is dominating the news cycle... oh, the Kardashians must be on a break... Nt JudyM Jan 2016 #13

So true! Or Trump! nt Logical Jan 2016 #14

The short answer is that people are interested in it NobodyHere Jan 2016 #22

Right. It's as if it has some credibility and meaning beyond what it actually is. Nt JudyM Jan 2016 #83

Beats talking about TTP. Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #23

I've actually only seen it mentioned here and there on CNN. cwydro Jan 2016 #53

There isn't much reporting on what's most meaningful ... mostly a quest for the juicy instead. Nt JudyM Jan 2016 #84

Most of the coverage I've seen involves mockage. More mockage is needed. nt uppityperson Jan 2016 #123

You do have a point there. Still, much more important "news" should be receiving coverage. Nt JudyM Jan 2016 #133

I agree. It's nice to have wall to wall mockage vs FEAR but there are other news, more important. nt uppityperson Jan 2016 #137

I wondered for a while Bettie Jan 2016 #16

It's for the birds. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #18

No. You are not alone. Mad as hell. 7wo7rees Jan 2016 #21

Me, too. This is a fed protected wildlife refuge taken over by a bunch wordpix Jan 2016 #158

"Any good reason not to arrest them?" demwing Jan 2016 #26

They have guns so are under the protection of the NRA. Kablooie Jan 2016 #27

White privaledge... Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #30

You are correct. I could have never imagined how far white privilege would go back in the 80s rusty quoin Jan 2016 #35

I'm with you. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #31

We're supposed to see Bettie Jan 2016 #68

The bias is obvious. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #34

It's not illegal to open carry in Oregon. Sam_Fields Jan 2016 #38

If I did that with a local park office I guarantee I would be arrested. nt Logical Jan 2016 #61

a local park is a lot different than a place hundreds of miles from any significant town Egnever Jan 2016 #76

Favoritism our Federal Gov. DOI/BLM has given these welfare ranchers has brought us to this day. Sunlei Jan 2016 #44

Feds may fear the clowns are prepared to resist to the death. (Just not without warm socks.) merrily Jan 2016 #45

No Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #46

There was an armed takeover at a reservation near where I lived some years ago Kaleva Jan 2016 #49

Interesting, I guess maybe this is not that unusual then. nt Logical Jan 2016 #62

Oregon standoff: As more armed men arrive, should authorities close the road? pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #51

Do you suppose they're trying to lure them in? Vinca Jan 2016 #52

I doubt it pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #67

Sadly, yes. krispos42 Jan 2016 #57

That is getting to be apparent. nt Logical Jan 2016 #60

And then there is that damnable problem, reality, which is complex and nuanced and external and real L. Coyote Jan 2016 #77

At a certain point, feds were prepared and did arrest those who wordpix Jan 2016 #161

It is now very apparent this is an organized political stunt with lots of Republicans involved. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #170

Did not expect Obama And Lynch to be so blatant about it. Nt hack89 Jan 2016 #141

I Didn'r Expect Such Mollycoddling Vogon_Glory Jan 2016 #80

Why has the damned power not been cut stage left Jan 2016 #81

I agree! nt Logical Jan 2016 #86

Good question. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #98

To keep the office computers live so their communications can be monitored... same for mobile underahedgerow Jan 2016 #111

Ok stage left Jan 2016 #148

More people in the house, more charges, more jail time, penalties, tax liabilities, whatever.... underahedgerow Jan 2016 #156

No speculation, if not white they would all be at a minimum in jail or dead. Period... but I randys1 Jan 2016 #177

Agreed. stage left Jan 2016 #179

I would be completely cool stage left Jan 2016 #178

If the media would go away, I don't care if they sit there freezing their butts until OregonBlue Jan 2016 #85

"Any good reason not to arrest them?" Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #88

Yes, but will that happen? AZCat Jan 2016 #90

No...and I think there's been a lesson learned from that. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #92

I understand these situations are volatile. AZCat Jan 2016 #97

I see some here have decided laws are conditional, good to know. Rex Jan 2016 #94

Only if ya got one of these... countryjake Jan 2016 #104

I just need to grow out my beard and go waste a few thousand on some death candy Rex Jan 2016 #105

If they go into town they should be arrested treestar Jan 2016 #102

My thoughts on the subject. Half-Century Man Jan 2016 #106

Very nice post. It deserves it's own thread. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #114

I'd guess the Mining and Energy industries. Half-Century Man Jan 2016 #116

"Wise Use" foot soldiers/corporations... countryjake Jan 2016 #126

Wise Use has always had an odd definition of the word wise... haele Jan 2016 #174

To a capitalist it is wise, reap all individual profits possible, community be damned. countryjake Jan 2016 #180

This isn't hard. A credible threat of force has been established... beevul Jan 2016 #115

I thought I might have been missing something. lpbk2713 Jan 2016 #122

Which line of the OP could not apply to the Occupy movement? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #127

LOL, Guns and a actual building! So you are saying if OWS would of occupied an actual.... Logical Jan 2016 #138

Your senario would have affected thousands of people Calista241 Jan 2016 #149

It's "would have" or "would've" ... not "would of". nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #150

How adorable! Nt Logical Jan 2016 #151

It was adorable that you did it twice in the same post. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #152

Ahhh, so cute! I love grammar whiners! Here is a...... Logical Jan 2016 #153

Hate me all you want. I let most grammars mistakes slide right on by. Hell, I make... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #154

I hop somday 2 b as smartt and sucesful as u Logical Jan 2016 #155

I get called on my mistakes, too... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #157

Explain this word "hug" please Logical Jan 2016 #159

It's where I take my two arms, encircling you and pulling you to me, until our cheeks are... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #160

Wow, are you smart! I really feel stupid now. And i will reread your post history to try harder.... Logical Jan 2016 #162

You're very gracious. Thank you. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #163

Sure, i hope you got your little superiority bump! nt Logical Jan 2016 #165

Well, it is comparable to a section of water main, so there's that. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #166

I dont understand thst sentence can you xplsin it? Logical Jan 2016 #167

... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #168

Still not sure Logical Jan 2016 #169

Occupy wasnt a heavily armed camp taking over fed protected land wordpix Jan 2016 #164

Occupy was the same, and arguably legally worse. branford Jan 2016 #184

I'm begining to suspect they have friends in high places (FBI?) protecting them. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #129

Have you heard of these guys? L. Coyote Jan 2016 #171

You are not Gawdless Pinko Lib Jan 2016 #139

If we can kill a dude reselling cigs and a 12 year old kid.... JEB Jan 2016 #143

Federal law enforcement learned from similar encounters and now takes a laid back approach. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #173

Avoid a civil war? moondust Jan 2016 #146

They get the kid gloves treatment Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #172

You're not alone, no. But that doesn't make you right. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2016 #175

I hope you are right! nt Logical Jan 2016 #182

I really think they want a war. Best to sit it out, then round them up one at a time. B Calm Jan 2016 #176