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steve2470

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10. devil's advocate: It's very possible he changed his mind on some things

Reply to Angry Dragon (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:23 PM

Feb 2016

Changing your mind is different from genuine lying. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but YMMV. Proving genuine lying means that you have to PROVE that the person knew the truth and deliberately made a dishonest and inaccurate statement. I have no doubt in my mind that once he got into office, the PTB and the Pentagon and CIA "sat him down" and told him what's what. That's my theory and yes, I cannot prove it.

We won't agree ever on PBO, so let's just agree to disagree. Sincerely, have a good day.

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Let us make a list of honest politicians [View all] Angry Dragon Feb 2016 OP

you mean 100% honest at all times during their long and storied career, or.... steve2470 Feb 2016 #1

I was thinking more about ones that tried to make this a better country Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #7

devil's advocate: It's very possible he changed his mind on some things steve2470 Feb 2016 #10

Walter Mondale. Admitted that he would raise taxes (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #2

pretty damn honest, yes, probably lost him the election knowing how we Americans are nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #4

Yes Angry Dragon Feb 2016 #8

I used to feel that way, in part because I lack any stomach for the work struggle4progress Feb 2016 #3

+1 nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #6

++1 We ask more of politicians than we ask of ourselves. Justice Feb 2016 #9

you nailed it, it's a very rare human being who is 100% honest 100% of the time nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #11

I will finish: KamaAina Feb 2016 #5

I know one. HuckleB Feb 2016 #12

she's a professional social worker, social workers are almost all good people steve2470 Feb 2016 #14

True. Not quite as good as the people who pick up the horse poop during parades, but... HuckleB Feb 2016 #15

Your list is far too long. nt branford Feb 2016 #13

My list: bigwillq Feb 2016 #16

Elizabeth Warren. NCjack Feb 2016 #17

agreed nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #18

Jimmy Carter. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #19

agreed that he is very honest nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #20

Yes. Agreed. n/t inanna Feb 2016 #21

I think my congressman, Keith Ellison, hifiguy Feb 2016 #22