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57. No, the UN does not have a court to protect human rights
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jun 2016

The EU does (the European Court of Justice), and it also requires members belong to the Council of Europe, so that the European Court of Human Rights can rule on cases in the member countries. There is nothing equivalent from the UN; if you haven't heard, there are many human rights abuses in UN member countries, and the UN is powerless to protect the individuals. And, as I showed, the Leave side want to get rid of the right to appeal to those courts.

The EU may not have handled the refugee situation perfectly, but your telling of what happened is just plain false. The German leadership let in close to a million refugees - to the annoyance of the right wing in Germany. In contrast, the British government tried to take as few refugees as it could get away with. Leaving the EU will just allow a Tory government to do even less for refugees.

On right to work and 'flexibility', the EU is more pro-worker than the people like Boris Johnson who lead the Brexit campaign and are now likely to take over the British government. They want less regulation of business. I may or may not have posted this for you before, but it bears repeating:

On Thursday 23 June British voters will decide if Britain should continue its membership of the European Union or leave.
Working people will have a big stake in the referendum because workers’ rights are on the line. The TUC is concerned that leaving the EU puts at risk many vital workplace rights currently underpinned by EU law – paid holidays, extra maternity rights and better conditions for part-time workers, as well as many better jobs in export-reliant industries.
WORKERS' RIGHTS: Brexit impact
An independent legal opinion from Michael Ford QC identifies the dangers of Britain leaving the EU for working people.
BETTER OFF IN - Working people and the case for remaining in the ​EU
This paper looks at the likely impact of Brexit on the core concern of trade unions: good jobs with decent pay.​
A BIG DECISION FOR WORKERS - Interactive guide
Guide to help you understand the main issues that affect working people.
THE NHS: How Brexit could affect our health service
BRITISH STEEL: Why Brexit won’t save our steel
- What Brexit would mean
- The benefits for UK workers
WOMEN’S RIGHTS: The risks of Brexit
Women workers’ rights and the risks of Brexit​
This report outlines 20 ways in which EU law has improved the rights of working women in the UK
​RACE EQUALITY: The risks of Brexit
FREE MOVEMENT IS A TWO-WAY STREET - Brexit would risk it all
The EU referendum: A big decision. Don't risk it! - Explanatory animation
Stuart's story: Don't risk our car industry by leaving the EU
Tracey's story: Don't risk our flexible working by leaving the EU​
Angie's story: The NHS will be poorer if we leave the EU
Maurice's story: Bad bosses will exploit workers' if we leave the EU​
Kevin's story: EU laws have helped reduce injuries at work and even saves lives
Michelle's story: I don't want to risk losing pregnancy, maternity and family leave rights

"Global financial mafia"? You mean "world markets". Now the banksters in the UK have free rein tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
A different bunch of crooks gwheezie Jun 2016 #2
Applauding a right wing movement on DU? Nonhlanhla Jun 2016 #3
There's a bunch of them here. It's disconcerting, to say the least. Hekate Jun 2016 #15
Yep. Extremism is extremism regardless of ideology. sufrommich Jun 2016 #18
Now if we can just get Trump elected, the left's revolution will be complete. pampango Jun 2016 #4
This is so incredibly fucking stupid I don't have words for it. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #5
Co-signed. auntpurl Jun 2016 #7
There's a four letter word I keep repeating to myself, more and more, as I msanthrope Jun 2016 #11
Rhymes with "hat" in UK English and "hot" in US English? Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #12
You have it. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #13
It works with an i in the middle, too wryter2000 Jun 2016 #51
God damn it! I suck a word games. :p Meldread Jun 2016 #19
Yep. I've been gobsmacked by the number and persistance of this cohort of posters. Hekate Jun 2016 #16
This +1000 Meldread Jun 2016 #20
Obviously you didn't read the article no more banksters Jun 2016 #60
Yeah it worked so well the PM is going to resign and the Labour Party leader is stepping down. Rex Jun 2016 #6
It really bothers me... Adrahil Jun 2016 #8
"Global financial mafia" MohRokTah Jun 2016 #9
You know who gets hurt the most from this? justiceischeap Jun 2016 #10
That's because they don't care. Meldread Jun 2016 #21
Ever listened to Alex Jones? THEY are coming, the GLOBALISTS Albertoo Jun 2016 #25
Ever read Snowcrash? AngryAmish Jun 2016 #33
k&r Why are so many people on an "underground" site nationalize the fed Jun 2016 #14
Better question is "why are so many supporting Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage" Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #17
Exactly. Virtually all the left was united behind the Remain campaign. Meldread Jun 2016 #22
The EU laws are passed by the EU parliament, not the bureaucrats muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #23
Anything UKIP likes that much... DeadLetterOffice Jun 2016 #32
Also, and crucially, it is the EU Council, consisting of Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #39
I find this 'unelected bureaucrats' cliché laughable Albertoo Jun 2016 #27
The "unelected bureaucrat" is always a favorite target of conservatives. In the US it is Washington pampango Jun 2016 #47
+1,000 n/t LarryNM Jun 2016 #29
maybe you should get your facts straight first. drray23 Jun 2016 #30
Petty insularism is "resistance"? Brave new world of word salad.. Albertoo Jun 2016 #24
It was bigotry that won. Bad Thoughts Jun 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #28
So what's the big plan after Labour cracks apart, as it seems about to? Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #31
Who cares what happens? sufrommich Jun 2016 #34
It's crazy! Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #35
Sometimes you have to take 1 step backwards in order to take 2 steps forward davidn3600 Jun 2016 #36
So, what are the two steps forward, as I asked? Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #37
Where in any of this is there a step forward? Tories are about to strip Britain of its labor laws Recursion Jun 2016 #41
What? no more banksters Jun 2016 #42
You should really learn more about this Recursion Jun 2016 #44
Obviously no more banksters Jun 2016 #52
Remain campaigned to retain workers' rights; Leave to get rid of them muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #46
That's because no more banksters Jun 2016 #53
"Europe needs a restart towards the direction of humanitarian values"; Brexit is the wrong direction muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #55
Human rights and refugees no more banksters Jun 2016 #56
No, the UN does not have a court to protect human rights muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #57
Sorry, but no more banksters Jun 2016 #59
Breathtaking forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #54
The Left was absent again no more banksters Jun 2016 #38
You don't seem to know anything about the UK, its politics, or its media muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #45
If you support the rhetoric of Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson, that tells us all we need to know. pampango Jun 2016 #49
The stupid... it burns... Recursion Jun 2016 #40
Yeah, no. LeftyMom Jun 2016 #43
Fuck all this Fascism apologia. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #48
To the barricades, comrades! Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #50
Oh FFS... SidDithers Jun 2016 #58
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