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bread_and_roses

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50. Right! It's all the WORKERS' fault!
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jun 2016

really ... how very neo-liberal of you. Your remarks are so very similar to some that Clinton I made lo these long years ago in regard to NAFTA .... and we all know how well that's worked out.

it's terribly dishonest to blame business for our own failure to retrain for new jobs as our old ones were coming to an end. Sure, business knew many of their employees were literally refusing to change, were too improvident and even feckless to take proper care of themselves, and in this laissez-faire era declined the role of babysitter.


So ... all those factory workers who lost jobs were "too improvident and even feckless to take proper care of themselves" .... and they should have retrained for .... which new jobs exactly? Men and women who'd worked all their lives, taken care of themselves & their families all their lives .... should have retrained for .... McDonald's? Hotel housekeeping? Were they all supposed to become hedge fund managers?

You do realize not everyone wants, or is suited to, some sort of technical work? Many of those who could make a switch DID go back to school .... in computer sciences, etc. - only to eventually lose out to H1b visa imports. Others went to call centers .... then THEY started to be outsourced ....

As for those who waste long hours hanging around by their fingernails, they really should finally be hitting the books. The economy will never be "fixed" enough to pay good wages to workers whose skills are obsolete.


Really? Sooooooo.... let's see - child care workers, pre-school staff, elder-care home aides, janitors, refuse collectors, farm workers - just a few of the job classifications I can think of that are seriously, seriously underpaid, in which workers "hang [on] by their fingernails," always one day away from a utility shut-off, an eviction, an empty larder, an unpaid car insurance bill - we don't need those workers anymore? They are paid so little because their "skills are obsolete?" We have robots who can do those jobs now?

No. The collusion of "Liberals" and the Democratic Party in throwing away ordinary working people, in destroying public services by privatization, in allowing our infrastructure to crumble while there are millions out of work who could and would do that work, in kow-towing to Wall Street and the Vampire Insurance and Prison-for-Profit and Charter School and dirty energy companies, in allowing a sort of indentured servitude to the Masters for health care while wages eroded and the working class and poor fell deeper and deeper into debt and despair ....THOSE are some reasons why workers are "hanging on" by a thread. Not their "fecklessness" or "obsolete skills."

Your post could serve as a short course in why the working class has abandoned the Democratic party. It abandoned them. There is all sorts of work in the world, and all of it that is useful - like taking care of children and elders, harvesting food, and picking up our garbage deserves dignity and a living wage.

The contempt that absolutely drips off your post for ordinary working people is simply .... I have no words that suffice. I signed in here for the first time in a long time because I could not believe those statements seemed to left unchallenged. I even signed (unread) whatever those terms of service were - if I have violated them, too bad - I'll never be back anyway.
I hope he gets it blocked. Shandris Jun 2016 #1
There are many who 840high Jun 2016 #2
I hear you 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #3
I'm with you! phazed0 Jun 2016 #14
I'm not. I'm for strong changes to the TPP. Hortensis Jun 2016 #27
You're repeating propaganda elljay Jun 2016 #36
There is nothing "liberal" about business sacking Hortensis Jun 2016 #41
Spell check problem. neo liberal elljay Jun 2016 #42
Nonsense. You should not be repeating these lies. Hortensis Jun 2016 #43
Lets try FACTS instead of invctive: bvar22 Jun 2016 #45
Irrelevant. NEOLIBERAL IS HARD-CORE CONSERVATIVISM. Hortensis Jun 2016 #46
You seem confused. bvar22 Jun 2016 #47
The part where you say "facts instead of invective." Hortensis Jun 2016 #49
You are correct in that "Neoliberalism is the antithesis of liberalism" and that PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #48
Kochs embrace "neoliberals" whenever it Hortensis Jul 2016 #53
So, does that mean you won't vote for SheilaT Jun 2016 #31
The way trhey're setting it up elljay Jun 2016 #37
This ^^^^!!!!! KPN Jun 2016 #38
K & R. No how, no way to yet another Hafta trade deal to exterminate US workers appalachiablue Jun 2016 #4
That a fearful, victim-mentality position. We will be Hortensis Jun 2016 #28
No fearful victim, Reality. TPP is another pig in a poke to the mass uninformed. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #33
Chairmen serve a 14-year term, Appalachiablue. Hortensis Jun 2016 #34
Greenspan's remarks about greater worker insecurity appalachiablue Jun 2016 #35
Greenspans remarks are intensely CONSERVATIVE. Hortensis Jun 2016 #44
Your accusation that I am a conservative propagandist is false, appalachiablue Jul 2016 #52
Right! It's all the WORKERS' fault! bread_and_roses Jun 2016 #50
The poor downtrodden "workers" of this nation are Hortensis Jul 2016 #51
Didn't we Democrats learn anything about the Brexit vote? fasttense Jun 2016 #5
Data shows that Brexit supporters were anti-immigrant, anti-Green, anti-social liberalism, pampango Jun 2016 #12
That's what I'm saying. fasttense Jun 2016 #16
So we have to throw Obama and a large part of our base under the bus and scapegoat pampango Jun 2016 #18
I didn't say anything about throwing anyone under the bus fasttense Jun 2016 #21
Sad, but true... Shebear Jun 2016 #13
Thank you Keith Ellison - a Dem with a spine! Shebear Jun 2016 #6
Imagine that! 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #7
Yes, she did... Shebear Jun 2016 #10
I signed on and donated. GentryDixon Jun 2016 #8
Signed. geardaddy Jun 2016 #9
Glad to hear that our draft platform is the "most progressive statement" pampango Jun 2016 #11
The DNC Cryptoad Jun 2016 #15
If they want progressives to continue to join the march towards history of electing Hillary... Chan790 Jun 2016 #19
I dont think Cryptoad Jun 2016 #22
I think you're going to see attrition from the 80% if the TPP plank isn't added. Chan790 Jun 2016 #24
that attitude is Cryptoad Jun 2016 #26
and isn't that an utterly damning statement of the state of the new Democratic party AntiBank Jun 2016 #32
Dead in the water? Are you serious? KPN Jun 2016 #39
I STRONGLY oppose this proposed amendment. eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #17
Unsurprising. Chan790 Jun 2016 #20
Putting out that "free" trade deals are good for working people is a lie fasttense Jun 2016 #23
We agree. n/t Chan790 Jun 2016 #25
"Free Trade" == "Cheap Labor". nt bemildred Jun 2016 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #30
The irony lost in all this LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #40
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