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bluedye33139

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6. I'm not requiring "workers" to believe anything
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jul 2016

I'm not requiring anyone to believe anything. I'm stating that H1B visas are currently an important part of our immigration system, and I believe that people who immigrate on an H1B visa generally experience an improved life.

I get uncomfortable if the question become: Should good decent native-born Americans not become filled with rage at the thought of foreigners getting good jobs? It kind of asks me to determine whether or not people's xenophobia or immigrant-phobia is justified, and ... well, I am not the one to justify anyone's emotional sense that there are too many foreigners taking "our" jobs.

As for the Trump question, I might not be understanding you. Trump is getting this issue in the sense that he is not jumping onto the rightwing attack on H1B visas? I guess, in a sense, Trump's decision to break from Sessions and the rightwing cabal that wants to do away with H1B visas could persuade anti-Trump folks to agree with Jeff Sessions and the rightwing racist junta on this issue, but ... I don't think that's a legitimate analysis. Sessions is wrong. Trump is accidentally right about protecting H1B visa holders from the nativists. Should we do away with H1B highly skilled workers because Trump disagrees with the GOP on this?

Preserving H1B visas is part of a comprehensive approach bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #1
They're not cheap shots, worked in IT and the contracting companies out and out lied about ... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #3
Recruiting companies lying bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #5
Disney workers replaced Cayenne Jul 2016 #4
I'm not requiring "workers" to believe anything bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #6
So screw overpaid Americans? Cayenne Jul 2016 #11
Why do you hate America? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #12
Why do you not express concern ... GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #40
Why don't you care more for good white decent 'Murkan's, you mean? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #43
Bullshit. Having worked for a fortune 100 telecom, I can tell you it's all about driving wages down. X_Digger Jul 2016 #22
Is there anything there to bolster displacement laws? We don't need to worry about visas if the ... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #2
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #7
Lack of both nuance and context once again... typical. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #9
H1B visas are bullshit angrychair Jul 2016 #8
The contempt for American workers is appalling Cayenne Jul 2016 #14
There's no consensus - in the economist and social science community at least - Politicub Jul 2016 #19
I saw it first hand, as a hiring manager. I know what we paid US workers vs H1Bs for the same job. X_Digger Jul 2016 #23
Sounds like a shitty company with shitty policies Politicub Jul 2016 #25
Agree bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #26
Bullshit. There is no lack of talent. X_Digger Jul 2016 #29
Data? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #34
Every company that I've worked for that used H1bs was the same. X_Digger Jul 2016 #28
You're a focus group of one Politicub Jul 2016 #30
What skills specifically do the US workers NOT have gd770226 Jul 2016 #36
There's not enough - it's not that people are getting turned down Politicub Jul 2016 #38
No they wouldn't. Statistical Jul 2016 #37
That doesn't describe where I work Politicub Jul 2016 #39
The Canadians seem to manage ... GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #41
Well, Canada Politicub Jul 2016 #42
HB1s are important Politicub Jul 2016 #10
Important for the rich, not the workers Cayenne Jul 2016 #13
Unless you're a person with an HB1 Politicub Jul 2016 #17
And the US citizens displaced do not depend on their jobs for their livelihood? gd770226 Jul 2016 #20
Just wait for mass automation - HB1s will seem quaint in comparison Politicub Jul 2016 #27
Call me crazy, I think we should try to find Americans for domestic jobs before importing workers. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #15
Borders bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #24
I agree. My husband works in IT and the vast majority of the H1Bs prayin4rain Jul 2016 #35
I guess I will be sitting out this election. modem77 Jul 2016 #16
That makes zero sense Politicub Jul 2016 #18
Why should anybody vote for somebody that flat out supports a program that takes jobs away. gd770226 Jul 2016 #21
one thing for absolutely certain, Trump will do the same and worse. Ignore his mouthy rhetoric. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #32
Won't vote from Trump either gd770226 Jul 2016 #33
There are Americans skilled for those jobs. Wtf? onecaliberal Jul 2016 #31
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