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mercuryblues

(14,576 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:21 AM Aug 2016

White Male Privilege Is Why We Laugh At Lochte And Vilify Douglas [View all]


Gymnast Gabby Douglas “disrespected” her entire country by not putting her hand on her heart and smiling enough during the Olympics. Swimmer Ryan Lochte is a “kid” who deserves “a break” for allegedly destroying property and lying about a traumatic robbery.

If you were wondering what white, male privilege looks like, this is it.


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Douglas, who is just 20 years old, failed to put her hand on her heart during the national anthem, and did not style her hair and/or face to every individual’s liking. For those “crimes,” she was widely criticized for being “disprespectful,” “unpatriotic” and “un-American,” and called words that we’d rather not repeat in this piece. Lochte and friends reportedly defiled a gas station restroom, fought with a security officer, lied to national news sources, and may have filed a false police report. And the four of them get to be framed as talented “kids” (reminder: Lochte is 32) having one debaucherous night of fun.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ryan-lochte-gabby-douglas-and-white-male-privilege-in-action_us_57b5e76de4b034dc73262f93






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WendyBrandes
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If Ryan Lochte lied about that robbery, how can we ever believe any man's allegations of robbery? 🤔

10:41 PM - 17 Aug 2016



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Anthony Dominic
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Gabby Douglas was destroyed for hand placement. He pisses on a business and blames a country, and people are making excuses. #LochteGate

2:11 PM - 18 Aug 2016



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It is outrageous how Gabby was treated. femmocrat Aug 2016 #1
I thought the same as well when I saw it. N/t roamer65 Aug 2016 #161
Did you ever notice... WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2016 #173
The law states that you should your hand over your heart for the anthem whopis01 Aug 2016 #193
I agree. WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2016 #210
No more outrageous than typical Republican fake outrage... Beartracks Aug 2016 #187
OKAY?????? whistler162 Aug 2016 #2
Well sort of I guess whatthehey Aug 2016 #3
I'm seeing more people making excuses for Lochte right now than I saw attacking Gabby D. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #65
Is Ryan Lochte the Donald Trump of the Olympics ? OnDoutside Aug 2016 #4
Yes malaise Aug 2016 #10
I must have a malise mind then .... ;) OnDoutside Aug 2016 #56
I actually said he must be a Trump voter:hi: malaise Aug 2016 #122
Sounds like he has plenty of potential True Dough Aug 2016 #33
One we watched and the other we were told about days after the fact. Igel Aug 2016 #5
+1. Thread can end right here. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #12
You do realize Douglas won the all around in 2012 right? mythology Aug 2016 #13
She's also written at least one book, possibly two - I can't remember. She was on the winning Squinch Aug 2016 #123
I think most of what you've written here True Dough Aug 2016 #50
no past achievements? mercuryblues Aug 2016 #58
+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #112
American culture and it's dying majority heaven05 Aug 2016 #108
+2,000,000!!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #138
+1000000. Plus all these excuse for a 30 year old man - what does this say to the world ? Person 2713 Aug 2016 #6
Had they been African American awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #113
By whom? DUers? Garden variety Racists? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #150
Probably at least 1/2 of MSM would take that tack if not those words. RW press certainly would. Ford_Prefect Aug 2016 #192
+++1000 heaven05 Aug 2016 #199
Assumptions aside, do you have any proof? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #212
I was very surprised to see so many DUers earnestly defending Lochte (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #7
Glad I Wasn't Among Them ProfessorGAC Aug 2016 #42
Not demanding his head <> defending him. nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #55
Was watching last night Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #8
Phelps was cracking up laughing during one of his medal ceremonies milestogo Aug 2016 #23
I saw that too. JoePhilly Aug 2016 #30
Boys will be boys. nt NCTraveler Aug 2016 #9
That's exactly the attitude that defines this. sarae Aug 2016 #83
+1 One of the most pathetic justifications. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #90
They're not even remotely the same situation. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #11
Right--one was a crime, and the other was a trivial breach of protocol Orrex Aug 2016 #174
Well, and one was a cut-and-dried case of trolls responding in real time NuclearDem Aug 2016 #176
Actually, I'd say that's a fair assessment Orrex Aug 2016 #179
An aside: LWolf Aug 2016 #14
Indeed lib87 Aug 2016 #15
So, white privilege is people not hating Lochte enough? Taitertots Aug 2016 #16
No it is disparate reactions to societal "transgressions" BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #20
In the media? The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #25
How about this analysis BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #35
What do those links have to do with the media giving The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #45
or this mercuryblues Aug 2016 #66
What media called him a kid? The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #85
Excused in the media as a 'youthful prank'?? B2G Aug 2016 #28
See post 25 - the OP is about white privilege BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #36
I assume you meant #35, and B2G Aug 2016 #48
Yes 35 BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #67
The Sporting News, for one: Saviolo Aug 2016 #59
Can you show us the media that are referring to this as a "youthful prank"? Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #31
The OP is about white privilege - see post 25 BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #37
So the media never called it a youthful prank. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #43
So you naturally missed the point. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #44
How can it be about white privilege when everyone is ripping on Lochte? Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #47
They are only ripping him after they found out he and his companions lied. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #73
Well, yeah. Nobody is going to rip someone who claimed to have just been robbed. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #76
"They should have just shut their mouths and went to bed." BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #79
I'm not excusing their behavior. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #82
So committing a crime is okay? BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #87
When did I say that? Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #89
You do know what they did, right? BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #95
When did I make excuses for them? Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #98
Really? BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #100
What you quoted wasn't an excuse, genius. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #102
you are REALLY reaching Skittles Aug 2016 #127
But the media was quick to accept it BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #134
You do realize crime is a bit of a problem in Rio? tritsofme Aug 2016 #144
Every single city on this planet has a "problem". BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #148
The crime problem in Rio is a legitimate news story, it's not pretend. tritsofme Aug 2016 #153
"Lochte took advantage of this to frame his lie." BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #156
So what you're saying happened melman Aug 2016 #54
All sorts of examples have appeared in this thread. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #81
No melman Aug 2016 #88
Read my post again BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #99
lol @ salve melman Aug 2016 #117
What's obvious BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #135
exactly right bravenak Aug 2016 #168
All sorts of excuses to make it appear as white privilege R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #213
All sorts of denial about it being just that. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #214
Opinions vary... R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #219
lapse in judgement mercuryblues Aug 2016 #60
And there you have an example BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #75
Wow, one whole example! Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #78
Keep reading the thread as other examples are added BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #84
Sorry that the premise of the OP does not match with reality. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #91
it proves OP's point heaven05 Aug 2016 #115
Meanwhile everyone else is calling Lochte out. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #116
lockte and the others heaven05 Aug 2016 #119
Nah, they can keep their medals. What they did had nothing to do with their events. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #121
2 men stood up on a podium silent BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #136
Two wrongs don't make a right. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #141
The point is BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #142
The two things you are comparing were also a half century apart. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #146
Yet these types of disparate responses continue. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #152
Again, 99.9% of the responses regarding Lochte are that he is a lying asshole. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #155
Only after he was outed. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #157
But you must admit Chitown Kev Aug 2016 #162
I went to a college BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #164
I read a lot of sports blogs Chitown Kev Aug 2016 #177
hard to rip someone as a lying asshole until it is shown they lied Grey Lemercier Aug 2016 #189
OFFS BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #194
Every American city is incredibly dangerous and violent? melman Aug 2016 #195
I guess you missed the data I posted BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #197
there is NOTHING remotely close to Rio in the USA, NOTHING Grey Lemercier Aug 2016 #204
How silly BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #205
nope, I completely stand by the entirety of my post Grey Lemercier Aug 2016 #206
Of course you would. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #207
you simply are applying a sort of reverse American exceptionalism Grey Lemercier Aug 2016 #208
Kind of like Lance Armstrong who you might agree is not black and Rilgin Aug 2016 #182
How is that any different from a racist saying B2G Aug 2016 #118
hey, not just racist heaven05 Aug 2016 #120
What if I don't care about either instance...as I do...while white? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #151
It could simply be a recognition of a disproportional response rather than hate. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #39
"Disproportionate response" = not enough hate for Lochte Taitertots Aug 2016 #57
more like mercuryblues Aug 2016 #64
The majority think Lochte is a moron for his actions and that the Douglas incident was nothing. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #69
lockte and others heaven05 Aug 2016 #110
As always awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #114
YES!! White guys behaving badly = "kids"; innocent 12-year old black kid playing with a toy gun... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #17
more like mercuryblues Aug 2016 #86
NO! If you're over 18, you are an adult, not a kid. You know the difference between right and Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #137
Just who is this "we"? I have a TON of issue with Lochte and NONE with Gabby (or the Shot Putters). jmg257 Aug 2016 #18
First of all, it was some jackholes on Twitter B2G Aug 2016 #19
D'oh Solomon Aug 2016 #22
D'oh what? B2G Aug 2016 #24
+1 melman Aug 2016 #26
exactly Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #52
There is at least one of every kind of asshole on twitter (yes, that includes me) jack_krass Aug 2016 #185
Who is making excuses for Lochte? The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #21
Whoops there it is Person 2713 Aug 2016 #109
There it is. It can't get any plainer than that. nt MrScorpio Aug 2016 #27
And they sit around wondering why,,,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2016 #29
I've been overseas 8 times and nobody has ever treated me like an asshole. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #32
Most will not treat u like an Ahole Cryptoad Aug 2016 #38
Are you the spokesperson for what the world thinks? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #154
No,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2016 #158
No shit. Iggo Aug 2016 #34
The story of my life :) jack_krass Aug 2016 #183
Has anyone plcdude Aug 2016 #40
What the hell? cpwm17 Aug 2016 #41
Rachel Maddow broke into her show to basically say these clowns.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #46
Pretty much no one has villified Gabby Douglas oberliner Aug 2016 #49
The Gabby Douglas situation was trending on Facebook, so yeah, a bullwinkle428 Aug 2016 #62
The big deal was in response to a very small number of comments oberliner Aug 2016 #68
First, I never saw anyone chastise Gabby about her hand placement Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #51
There was PLENTY of Harassment of Gabby..... LovingA2andMI Aug 2016 #61
There was a huge outpouring of support and love directed at her in response to the Twitter/FB trolls oberliner Aug 2016 #71
Yes, I missed it... I don't know why athletes pay attention to such assholes Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #124
Try reading your own article. Rilgin Aug 2016 #191
Thank you but Reading is a Skill Us Black Folks Have.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2016 #202
You do know, I did not know your race or gender. I just read the article you posted. Rilgin Aug 2016 #215
So.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2016 #216
I have no idea what point you are making about your signature line. Rilgin Aug 2016 #217
it's smearing white people Skittles Aug 2016 #128
You have it wrong. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2016 #165
I see no evidence that Lochte is getting treated well by the media or social media. Vattel Aug 2016 #53
I never vilified Douglas or jumped to Lochte's defense... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #63
This place is getting too crazy for me with the identity politics. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #92
Everyone thinks Lochte behaved like a dick. Throd Aug 2016 #70
The only people with that combo of opinions treestar Aug 2016 #72
This article is idiotic oberliner Aug 2016 #74
It's straight out of Bizarro World melman Aug 2016 #96
This article is 50% correct. Takket Aug 2016 #77
Mario Andrata: "Let's give these kids a break." oberliner Aug 2016 #93
"There Is No Sin Below The Equator" DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #80
Every situation has to placate the identity politics crew. romanic Aug 2016 #94
How RW a talking point. BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #101
Put away the purity test. romanic Aug 2016 #103
Are you on the right site? BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #106
Yeah I am. romanic Aug 2016 #125
This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #129
we are on the LEFT SITE Skittles Aug 2016 #132
No "left site" should call discussion of perceptions of racial disparity "identity politics". BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #133
One would think the liberal position would be judging people individually on their own merits NuclearDem Aug 2016 #139
it's just pitiful Skittles Aug 2016 #140
No one is "trash(ing) white guys in general" BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #145
bullshit Skittles Aug 2016 #147
Yet there are white people on DU who don't see it as that at all BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #149
AND THEY DON'T REPRESENT MOST WHITE PEOPLE Skittles Aug 2016 #159
And you do? BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #160
Poor white folks. bravenak Aug 2016 #169
"since it is not EVERY SINGLE WHITE PERSON on earth who is racist" NuclearDem Aug 2016 #172
Here melman Aug 2016 #190
This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #131
Nothing like cherry picking events to portray your own version of reality.... jack_krass Aug 2016 #97
typical heaven05 Aug 2016 #104
Yes, Cherry picking.... jack_krass Aug 2016 #180
I think that the only people that were offended Chitown Kev Aug 2016 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Aug 2016 #107
exactly niyad Aug 2016 #111
who the FUCK is laughing at Lochte? Skittles Aug 2016 #126
no it is making you look silly mercuryblues Aug 2016 #163
memes? melman Aug 2016 #166
oh FFS mercuryblues Aug 2016 #171
she was raked over the coals by a few idiots, but the vast majority of social media lifted her up Takket Aug 2016 #175
He committed an actual crime BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #196
not with a better result mercuryblues Aug 2016 #198
Looks like the NY Post didn't get the memo melman Aug 2016 #209
Poor Gabby does something most americans would do workinclasszero Aug 2016 #130
yeah that would be terrible, if anybody was actually saying that Takket Aug 2016 #143
With Lochte, people don't have all the information davidn3600 Aug 2016 #167
I just wonder who that "we" shit is anyway. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #170
Sports and patriotism HassleCat Aug 2016 #178
False premise: That there is one "we" here. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #181
Whose laughing? Everyone I know says he's a jackass for this 7962 Aug 2016 #184
or... Javaman Aug 2016 #186
Hah! Double standard much? calimary Aug 2016 #188
Again, that "we". Iggo Aug 2016 #200
I wonder why the author is vilifying Douglas. AngryAmish Aug 2016 #201
The author and the mouse in her pocket. Iggo Aug 2016 #218
"We." LOL SMC22307 Aug 2016 #203
You are trying too hard Egnever Aug 2016 #211
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