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yallerdawg

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Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:18 PM Sep 2016

Snowden on 'Privacy' [View all]

"One of the most important things I think we all have a duty collectively in society to think about is when we’re directed to think a certain way and accept a certain argument reflexively without actually tackling it.

"The common argument we have — if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear — the origins of that are literally Nazi propaganda. This is not to equate the actions of our current government to the Nazis, but that is the literal origin of that quote. It's from the Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels.

"So when we hear modern politicians, modern people repeating that reflexively without confronting its origins, what it really stands for, I think that's harmful.

"And if we actually think about it, it doesn’t make sense. Because privacy isn’t about something to hide. Privacy is about something to protect. That’s who you are. That's what you believe in. Privacy is the right to a self. Privacy is what gives you the ability to share with the world who you are on your own terms. For them to understand what you’re trying to be and to protect for yourself the parts of you you’re not sure about, that you’re still experimenting with.

"If we don’t have privacy, what we’re losing is the ability to make mistakes, we’re losing the ability to be ourselves. Privacy is the fountainhead of all other rights. Freedom of speech doesn’t have a lot of meaning if you can’t have a quiet space, a space within yourself, your mind, your community, your friends, your family, to decide what it is you actually want to say.

"Freedom of religion doesn’t mean that much if you can’t figure out what you actually believe without being influenced by the criticisms of outside direction and peer pressure. And it goes on and on.

"Privacy is baked into our language, our core concepts of government and self in every way. It’s why we call it 'private property.' Without privacy you don’t have anything for yourself.

"So when people say that to me I say back, arguing that you don’t care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like arguing that you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say."

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Snowden on 'Privacy' [View all] yallerdawg Sep 2016 OP
FUCK THAT TRAITOR RUSSIAN SPY MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!! MohRokTah Sep 2016 #1
I thought that, too. yallerdawg Sep 2016 #3
I don''t listen to bullshit lies from fucking traitor Russian spies! eom MohRokTah Sep 2016 #4
Or is it 'whistleblower'? yallerdawg Sep 2016 #8
He is NOT a "whistleblower. He's a fucking spy. MohRokTah Sep 2016 #9
Plenty of that could have happened anyway treestar Sep 2016 #17
👆 this. deathrind Sep 2016 #10
Would be a great argument if that was the argument Egnever Sep 2016 #16
... deathrind Sep 2016 #19
Preach it, brother! No, just...stop preaching, will you? You fucked up. Admit it. randome Sep 2016 #2
Snowden is complicated. CanSocDem Sep 2016 #5
I find quite the oposite Egnever Sep 2016 #7
Blah blah blah Nazi! Egnever Sep 2016 #6
Post removed Post removed Sep 2016 #11
. Egnever Sep 2016 #12
No other country or anyone else living anywhere does bad things? kcr Sep 2016 #13
Seriously? Nothing nefarious going on in any other country? treestar Sep 2016 #15
word salad treestar Sep 2016 #14
His movie is coming out! yallerdawg Sep 2016 #18
Good Grief! treestar Sep 2016 #20
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