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28. They don't like the trade deals...

Reply to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:38 AM

Oct 2016

But will vote for a guy who has his goods manufactured in China? Uses Chinese steel on his buildings?

Ugh

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The fact that Ohio has Trump ahead is a big red flag for politicians to stay away from shitty trade [View all] Quixote1818 Oct 2016 OP

Don't freak out Jason1961 Oct 2016 #1

I agree we very likely have this election won, it's the future I am worried about. Quixote1818 Oct 2016 #3

Not if we win Georgia and Texas! EL34x4 Oct 2016 #14

hmmm..Benchmark has Hillary up by 4.7 in Ohio misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #2

All polls combined have Trump ahead there Quixote1818 Oct 2016 #4

I'll go with Benchmark. Their polling method is the most precise & detailed I see. misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #6

No, Ohio doesn't "decide" the election... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #19

Ohio has been a republican state for many years, since the days of Jim Beard Oct 2016 #54

You mean that Ohio whatthehey Oct 2016 #5

Romney / McCain supported those deals too. Trump is leading there because he is hammering NAFTA. Quixote1818 Oct 2016 #7

It's easy to hammer NAFTA. Difficult to create an alternative. yardwork Oct 2016 #11

And Romney/McCain weren't sex abusing hapless political neophytes either whatthehey Oct 2016 #15

Nafta is at worse Neutral, so we should run policy on perception of harm, not real harm? Foggyhill Oct 2016 #37

Bush 1 supported NAFTA, in fact his admin started it Motley13 Oct 2016 #53

I supported it at the time of Bush too. I live in Texas so my opinion is more from being more concer Jim Beard Oct 2016 #55

Fortunately, this election doesn't depend on how Ohio votes. stopbush Oct 2016 #8

Reagan destroyed Ohio. liberalmuse Oct 2016 #9

The fact that Hillary is winning nationally might imply something else. yardwork Oct 2016 #10

Thank you. And... NurseJackie Oct 2016 #16

Some of our little friends are sneaking back. yardwork Oct 2016 #17

oh really? trump selling out american jobs and buying china steel is ok with Ohio residents? nt msongs Oct 2016 #12

Built a damn hotel in Vegas with that crap. Will probably cave in on peoples' heads with age. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #13

Nobody is defending Trump here. What we're saying is that the line he takes on trade Ken Burch Oct 2016 #21

No. Glassunion Oct 2016 #48

To make such an odd point requires a little revelant information postatomic Oct 2016 #18

If our platform had said "NO TPP", We'd be doing better now than in '64. Ken Burch Oct 2016 #20

You're overestimating voters' intelligence ... NurseJackie Oct 2016 #22

Amen! KitSileya Oct 2016 #24

Well said Egnever Oct 2016 #42

Yup ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #45

Actually, it's a big red flag that Ohio voters aren't paying attention. Vinca Oct 2016 #23

Brainwashed Bear Creek Oct 2016 #25

Actually, it's a big red flag that Ohio voters aren't paying attention. LenaBaby61 Oct 2016 #46

Many of the people I've seen interviewed sound totally batsh*t crazy. Like that guy. Vinca Oct 2016 #49

That sounds like alot of the people in my part of NW Ohio. bulloney Oct 2016 #60

Ohio is always close EricMaundry Oct 2016 #26

I don't like the realignment on free trade either Peaches999 Oct 2016 #27

Before you predict future Democratic losses, Cary Oct 2016 #32

Elections ebb and flow Peaches999 Oct 2016 #36

This is different Cary Oct 2016 #39

I'm not convinced Hillary will have large coattails Peaches999 Oct 2016 #40

The demographics have changed Cary Oct 2016 #41

They don't like the trade deals... apcalc Oct 2016 #28

Ugh is right Cary Oct 2016 #30

Demographics Cary Oct 2016 #29

Fleshing this out a bit...rural Ohio is very conservative Maeve Oct 2016 #56

The only constant is change Cary Oct 2016 #57

The polls I have seen show OH is split 50-50. LisaL Oct 2016 #31

this Ohioan believes Hillary will win Ohio rbrnmw Oct 2016 #33

I agree its not the time to give up on winning OH. LisaL Oct 2016 #34

historically, Ohio has tended towards close elections, IAW 270towin 538 has clinton 61.38% to win Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #35

Nafta is at worse Neutral, so we should run policy on perception of harm, not real harm? Foggyhill Oct 2016 #38

Agreed Egnever Oct 2016 #43

Create a boogeyman out of a trade deal then keep scaring people with it. At the same time pampango Oct 2016 #44

It's bait and switch, now that trickle down has blown up their people, they need a new scapegoat Foggyhill Oct 2016 #47

The takeaway should be that we'll need to fight hard to the end Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2016 #50

Agree pedal to the metal up to and including Nov 8! apcalc Oct 2016 #52

The Republicans might run a pro-free trader next time. David__77 Oct 2016 #51

How do they address this alt right thing? Cary Oct 2016 #58

The Republicans will split after the election Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2016 #62

The Democrats are three steps behind them? Cary Oct 2016 #64

they support Kasich and Obama is more pro free trade than Clinton JI7 Oct 2016 #59

Fucking amazing....6 months ago most on DU were totally against TPP. Now everyone wants it? davidn3600 Oct 2016 #61

Why progressives should rescue the TPP trade deal Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #63