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In reply to the discussion: The fact that Ohio has Trump ahead is a big red flag for politicians to stay away from shitty trade [View all]Cary
(11,746 posts)64. The Democrats are three steps behind them?
I don't think so. Our establishment is in line with our base. Sanders isn't all that different from Hillary unless one buys into Republican smears and lies.
I don't buy into that crap and after Hillary Clinton is elected the smears and lies will rightfully fall away. The radical left is marginal.
If the Republicans split then both factions will also be marginal. They will have to adapt. I do think see that happening but I don't see my inability to see it as the end all and be all.
But I do know that we have opportunity here, if we can muster sufficient will.
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The fact that Ohio has Trump ahead is a big red flag for politicians to stay away from shitty trade [View all]
Quixote1818
Oct 2016
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I agree we very likely have this election won, it's the future I am worried about.
Quixote1818
Oct 2016
#3
I'll go with Benchmark. Their polling method is the most precise & detailed I see.
misterhighwasted
Oct 2016
#6
Romney / McCain supported those deals too. Trump is leading there because he is hammering NAFTA.
Quixote1818
Oct 2016
#7
Nafta is at worse Neutral, so we should run policy on perception of harm, not real harm?
Foggyhill
Oct 2016
#37
I supported it at the time of Bush too. I live in Texas so my opinion is more from being more concer
Jim Beard
Oct 2016
#55
oh really? trump selling out american jobs and buying china steel is ok with Ohio residents? nt
msongs
Oct 2016
#12
Built a damn hotel in Vegas with that crap. Will probably cave in on peoples' heads with age.
lonestarnot
Oct 2016
#13
Nobody is defending Trump here. What we're saying is that the line he takes on trade
Ken Burch
Oct 2016
#21
Many of the people I've seen interviewed sound totally batsh*t crazy. Like that guy.
Vinca
Oct 2016
#49
historically, Ohio has tended towards close elections, IAW 270towin 538 has clinton 61.38% to win
Agnosticsherbet
Oct 2016
#35
Nafta is at worse Neutral, so we should run policy on perception of harm, not real harm?
Foggyhill
Oct 2016
#38
Create a boogeyman out of a trade deal then keep scaring people with it. At the same time
pampango
Oct 2016
#44
It's bait and switch, now that trickle down has blown up their people, they need a new scapegoat
Foggyhill
Oct 2016
#47
Fucking amazing....6 months ago most on DU were totally against TPP. Now everyone wants it?
davidn3600
Oct 2016
#61