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ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
29. How long emails remain in your inbox depends on your settings.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:04 PM
Oct 2016

I have emails that are ten years old because I use it as a filing system. However, they are not necessarily on your hard drive. That also depends on how it is set up. If you can go to a library or an internet cafe and access your emails from their computers, then obviously the emails are out in cyberspace on a server someplace rather than being on your hard drive.

Moreover, even if you take the precaution of keeping emails on a hard drive on your laptop, most email providers make backups for purposes of disaster recovery.

Beyond that, once you delete an email, it typically does not really disappear, it just goes into a different folder, usually called "archive". That itself is cleaned up (contents deleted) on a schedule that depends on your settings.

Also, whatever amount of disk space or other storage you have available for emails, it determines not so much the number of emails you can keep, but rather the total amount of space you can use expressed as a function of number of emails and size of each email -- roughly equal to number of emails times the average size of an email, if all your emails are around the same size (or normally distributed). So if you have, say, 148,000 million bytes of storage available (148GB as on this cheap Toshiba laptop I'm using), and you dedicate half of it to emails, you might as a ballpark estimate have 750,000 emails of 100,000 bytes each sitting on the hard drive on your laptop itself.

That would be adequate for text-only emails, but pictures take up more space, with large high resolution pictures taking up more space. Some systems have a limit on the size of any individual email, typically 5 million bytes, but many do not have any specific size limit. The mailbox itself typically has a limit, usually less than the 75,000 million bytes in the example, but again that depends on how it is set up. Presumably Mr Weiner stored a lot of photos, so he would have been able to store fewer total emails because of the relatively large space requirements of high resolution photos. Presumably his wife's emails would be more text-based and hence smaller.

If they used a govt-hosted email account then their emails would likely be held on a server someplace rather than on the hard drive on the laptop. It is risky to keep emails on a laptop hard drive because a laptop is so easily lost or stolen, and you would then need to request replacement copies from the backup or archival copies kept by your email service provider, if any.

So on balance, sure it's plausible they found as many emails as they said, and maybe the emails might have been held exclusively on the hard drive on the laptop. It seems unlikely they would do that, but who knows what Wiener would do; he's demonstrated amply that he doesn't exercise the best judgment. My best guess, though, is that there are probably no new Clinton emails there. But there could be.

They go away after a while. Wilms Oct 2016 #1
roflmaooooooo, people on the Tube are looking at me like I am a nutter Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #20
It has nothing to do with the number of emails and everything to do with how they are accessed Renew Deal Oct 2016 #2
Ok! imanamerican63 Oct 2016 #4
Is that 650,000 number real? Renew Deal Oct 2016 #6
That is a high number and that is why I asked the experts! imanamerican63 Oct 2016 #7
Hard drives today can be in terabytes. They can hold thousands and thousands of emails with RKP5637 Oct 2016 #3
See my response in #4! imanamerican63 Oct 2016 #5
sure lapfog_1 Oct 2016 #8
it's possible but..... getagrip_already Oct 2016 #9
small math error lapfog_1 Oct 2016 #10
I corrected it..... getagrip_already Oct 2016 #11
i deal in PBs many many PBs - n/t lapfog_1 Oct 2016 #12
a PB is just a 4 figure TB... ;) getagrip_already Oct 2016 #13
The average email is a lot smaller than 50k Foggyhill Oct 2016 #14
possibly... getagrip_already Oct 2016 #17
2GB PST file limits are from a long time ago. Current versions of Outlook(2010 and later) can do 50 WhollyHeretic Oct 2016 #16
this laptop is many moons old apparently... getagrip_already Oct 2016 #18
649,995 are Weiners (junk) Motley13 Oct 2016 #21
Please don't write "Wierner's" and "junk" in the same sentence. B2G Oct 2016 #24
Depends on how big the hard drive is and whether or not a backup copy was created. Initech Oct 2016 #22
It's easy to lose up to 22 million emails, in fact. Orrex Oct 2016 #23
Another question? Tracer Oct 2016 #25
When you trash them, they are usually Foggyhill Oct 2016 #27
Yes. Especially intergovernmental type emails that don't have lots of jpeg and .mov Fahrenthold451 Oct 2016 #28
How long emails remain in your inbox depends on your settings. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #29
i use a cloud based product cause outlook in the past set limits dembotoz Oct 2016 #30
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