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Blue_true

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125. Why is it?

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:14 PM

Mar 2017

Because you have a group of people that insist on leading after the barricades are breeched, but don't want to do any of the bleeding required to knock down the barricades. I listen to Democrats that have fought their way through the wilderness, not a guy who wants to anoint himself General.

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Bernie Sanders... The head of the Democratic Party who was never head of the Democratic Party [View all] WiffenPoof Mar 2017 OP

Until he registers as a Democrat that isn't going to happen still_one Mar 2017 #1

Even if he did, he will never be a leader of the Democratic Party simply because of these statements forjusticethunders Mar 2017 #8

And young people of color Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #19

young folks in my age group * were also victims of propaganda JHan Mar 2017 #47

Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #68

Nice try. JHan Mar 2017 #69

The stages of grief after realization that one has been used as a tool of Putin delisen Mar 2017 #75

It's way too late for bernie to liquid diamond Mar 2017 #31

Yes. And MANY OTHER "identity" Democrats who don't share Hortensis Mar 2017 #136

This is clickbait to get people to say stuff so they can report it . Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #144

Well, there then. I did get carried away saying Hortensis Mar 2017 #148

I am with you. Already I see they have had some success... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #151

everything you've posted in here is spot on. JHan Mar 2017 #154

Yes. Hortensis Mar 2017 #158

You prefer elitism? George Eliot Aug 2018 #168

He did register as a Democrat when he ran for President. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #44

He actually went back to being an Independent a month or more before the convention. In fact... George II Mar 2017 #66

The zombie lie: "Bernie never became a Democrat in Vermont" truebluegreen Mar 2017 #76

Not a "zombie lie". Pat Leahy is a Democrat, Sanders is an Independent..... George II Mar 2017 #82

Self identified. eom truebluegreen Mar 2017 #108

You kind of defeated your point there. synergie Mar 2017 #156

He doesn't represent them any better than Elizabeth Warren, Patty Murray, or pnwmom Mar 2017 #83

They are. Authoritarian leaders are almost always male. Hortensis Mar 2017 #137

+1000 stonecutter357 Mar 2017 #79

A party that he refuses to join lmao forjusticethunders Mar 2017 #2

Bernie can't be a leader until he learns how to be a team player... comradebillyboy Mar 2017 #3

Nah, he's just fooling around in Trumpland. He doesn't have enough seniority to take on the WH/GOP Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #4

He is not the 'true leader' of a party that he refuses to join. kstewart33 Mar 2017 #5

If he can move the nation closer to Single Payer, then good on him. Vilis Veritas Mar 2017 #6

He is the true leader of the liberal wing. padfun Mar 2017 #7

If your "liberalism" only caters to the interests of white workers forjusticethunders Mar 2017 #9

That is a right wing lie padfun Mar 2017 #11

And then he participated in white flight to almost all-white Vermont. forjusticethunders Mar 2017 #15

I grew up in Brooklyn about 2-3 miles from where he grew up and was born about five years.... George II Mar 2017 #26

How dare he move where he wants. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #153

He participated in a sit-in at the University of Chicago, where he was arrested along with dozens... George II Mar 2017 #30

years and years ago...who cares? Now if he joined the party, that would show he wants unity. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #146

Respectfully, no. kstewart33 Mar 2017 #24

Essentially, that is what Trump did to the Repubs... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #49

Who are these "Reagan Democrats" sheshe2 Mar 2017 #25

I was wondering the same. cwydro Mar 2017 #54

Yup. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #58

Yeah, tell that to Elizabeth Warren and Patty Murray. Bernie's their "true leader." nt pnwmom Mar 2017 #85

he things we tell ourselves... LanternWaste Mar 2017 #90

No, too divisive with insults.. just like you're doing now. Cha Mar 2017 #152

Nope. He refuses to become a Democrat. MineralMan Mar 2017 #10

I keep hearing "constitutional crisis" on here lately? What constitutional crisis? Goblinmonger Mar 2017 #21

Mineral Man is correct. kstewart33 Mar 2017 #27

Nope. He's not "emerging" as anything of the sort. That's just wishful thinking. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #12

He's not even that. forjusticethunders Mar 2017 #16

You make valid points. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #17

thank you. JHan Mar 2017 #34

Yup. +1 Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #141

Uh...he would have to join the party first workinclasszero Mar 2017 #13

As long as he continues to go around talking about what's wrong with Democrats, the Democrats.... George II Mar 2017 #14

Oh my god, yes!! Al Franken TOTALLY ROCKS!! He has a very statesmanlike demeanor, and... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #20

You mean...a Democratic Party MEMBER who leads the Democrats? That just doesn't sound right. randome Mar 2017 #22

busterisms will kill us. JHan Mar 2017 #39

You left Adam Schiff off of your list... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #50

Damn, how could I have forgotten him? Thanks for the reminder. George II Mar 2017 #52

He's been making a name this year, to be sure... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #55

"he is emerging as the true leader of the Democratic Party." LexVegas Mar 2017 #18

Nope. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #23

Hell nope.!!!! oasis Mar 2017 #59

Personalities are causing us to lose site of what is important. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #28

A party he (IMO) did his best to divide. LisaM Mar 2017 #29

Yep. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2017 #41

"he is emerging as the true leader of the Democratic Party." NCTraveler Mar 2017 #32

The Democratic Party needs to lose its corporate ties. alarimer Mar 2017 #33

tell me again which party wants to reverse citizen's united. JHan Mar 2017 #35

Thank you. I get so weary of the lies and smears against the Democratic Party. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #40

It's why I shared that video yesterday, Obama laid out the challenges .. JHan Mar 2017 #43

Oh, I missed that. Can you post the link again, please? (Thanks.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #48

sure :) this is the direct youtube link - JHan Mar 2017 #56

YouTube: "Obama on Citizens United Ruling" (Thanks for the link, JHan!) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #61

I think people need to define what they mean by "corporate ties", and what determines... George II Mar 2017 #77

If he wants Single Payer to be his legacy he's going to need to make a real effort brooklynite Mar 2017 #36

Other that introducing DOA proposals, Bernie Blue_true Mar 2017 #121

Sanders is a statesman, just like the original founders of our country... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #37

He couldn't get single payer enacted when our Democrats had the majority in both houses, how... George II Mar 2017 #46

It takes more than just one Senator... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #63

Bernie didn't even join the effort to get Single Payer done in Vermont. Blue_true Mar 2017 #123

And he's a politician. That's why he's a gun rights person -- to get elected in Vermont. n/t pnwmom Mar 2017 #86

Check is voting record... looks like you believe the Russian propaganda on this... Talk Is Cheap Mar 2017 #92

I know his voting record, including his voting record on gun control. n/t pnwmom Mar 2017 #94

No. He's not even a Democrat. What an absurd thing to say. Stand and Fight Mar 2017 #38

Another one of these threads? liquid diamond Mar 2017 #42

Leader of the Dem party? He can start by joining the party and ceasing his attacks on it Maven Mar 2017 #45

Bernie Sanders is an independent thinker and leader democrank Mar 2017 #51

Unfortunately he was slow to recognize Putin's interference. delisen Mar 2017 #81

This Is So Frustrating... WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #53

It is so frustrating to me that you are deliberately overlooking strong FEMALE leaders pnwmom Mar 2017 #64

OMG - How can you say that?! WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #67

Well when you go straight to Bernie is the leader of the Democratic Party and then backtrack JTFrog Mar 2017 #72

Wow...I'm definitely on the wrong site. WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #95

"I've made no mention of female leaders." NCTraveler Mar 2017 #74

EXACTLY. You called Bernie the HEAD of the Democratic party while overlooking Elizabeth Warren, pnwmom Mar 2017 #80

Stop It! WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #88

Why should I? You still have an OP up insisting that Bernie is the HEAD of the party. pnwmom Mar 2017 #93

I give up....nt WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #96

The OP is just suggesting Sanders is providing leadership that brings forth very liberal policies Quixote1818 Mar 2017 #99

Wow WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #102

The OP calls Bernie "the head of the Democratic party." That is a much larger claim pnwmom Mar 2017 #103

It was a tong and cheek statement the OP made Quixote1818 Mar 2017 #115

Then all that needs to be done is to remove the "He's our leader" bit. No problems then. randome Mar 2017 #117

So now you're the o.p.'s translator? We can read, in black & white, what the o.p. said. nt Tarheel_Dem Mar 2017 #135

"Why do you hate Sanders so much?" George II Mar 2017 #106

There are a handful of posters who immediately go ballistic on any positive post about Sanders Quixote1818 Mar 2017 #114

It isn't 'positive' to claim he is our leader. That's what causes the divisiveness. randome Mar 2017 #119

Please show me those posts where I went "ballistic" or expressed "rage" about Sanders. pnwmom Mar 2017 #120

Look, if those women know what's good for them, they'll stand aside for the curmudgeonly outsider! randome Mar 2017 #100

I reject that explanation. When you proclaim such an elevated status for him... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #70

Sorry If I offended You WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #87

No, you don't offend me. I don't know you. Your words are offensive. Get it? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #101

Thank you Professor. Nt WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #105

Your right and they know you are right. Quixote1818 Mar 2017 #91

Gawd....I feel like I called up the devil WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #97

Oh nice! So, people who disagree with you are the "Devil"? Charming. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #109

So many people here are still under the spell of Russian Bots regarding Bernie. SalviaBlue Mar 2017 #57

Exactly! eom WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #60

Um, it was Bernie fans that pushed RT and propaganda here, not the other way around. nt JTFrog Mar 2017 #73

It's lovely that Bernie is pushing for single payer today. Let's have a tea party + watch Rome burn. Justice Mar 2017 #62

The divergence between the abstract and the practical is so distinct here! RadiationTherapy Mar 2017 #65

Well Stated nt WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #98

I'd say Franken, Warren and Gillibrand are leading the pack nini Mar 2017 #71

Democratic party Members only from now on.......thanks. stonecutter357 Mar 2017 #78

If Bernie really wants to head up the party, he can damn well join it. (nt) Paladin Mar 2017 #84

Why is it that every few days, someone seeks to push buttons regarding outsiders? randome Mar 2017 #89

I hope the OP writer reads your comment... SharonClark Mar 2017 #111

Why is it? Blue_true Mar 2017 #125

No offense, but if Bernie wants influence, he has to fucking COMMIT. Adrahil Mar 2017 #104

He's the most apparent leader that I can see. "Official" or not. Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #107

And our actual party leaders are what? Chopped liver? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #110

Bless your little heart. SharonClark Mar 2017 #113

Why Sanders will never be the leader of the Democratic Party, in his own words: George II Mar 2017 #112

Wow! I hadn't heard the "opportunism" quote before. That's disappointing. But... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #116

Oh gosh, because you were such a big fan of his previously.. Kentonio Mar 2017 #128

What does that even mean? Can you elaborate? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #130

Makes you wonder why "some" here continue to try & make us follow someone who obviously.... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2017 #138

We needed his push 7 years ago back when there was still a snowball's chance Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #118

This is not the way to garner support for Bernie around here aikoaiko Mar 2017 #122

And this laundry list helps... how? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #124

Its not supposed to help you. Its directed at the OP to help him or her understand reactions aikoaiko Mar 2017 #127

A laundry list of fault-finding finger-pointing name-calling post only stirs MORE shit. Why? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #132

What in my post do you consider fault-finding, finger-pointing, or name-calling? aikoaiko Mar 2017 #134

"If you have to ask" then my adding anything extra isn't likely to help clarify. It appears... NurseJackie Mar 2017 #139

agreed. May not have been intended, but is certainly keeping the hurt feelings alive, something JCanete Mar 2017 #131

Apparently, the forces who tried to divide us in the primaries are still hard at work. Why you... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2017 #126

I believe your intuition is correct. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #129

Bernie Still Rocks! Bayard Mar 2017 #133

"He's not your typical politician" NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #149

He just kicked ass on Rachel Maddow Bayard Mar 2017 #167

I changed my party registration this week. Portland_Anni Mar 2017 #140

Welcome, Portland_Anni Cha Mar 2017 #147

Typo? NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #142

He can not be a leader in the Democratic Party as he is not Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #143

Hell NO. NOthing "true"about it.. and give me a break. Cha Mar 2017 #145

Russian propaganda helped Bernie in the primaries but he still lost. SecularMotion Mar 2017 #150

Is this accurate? Assuming "russian propaganda" means thousands of social media sock puppets... philly_bob Mar 2017 #161

This was recent news SecularMotion Mar 2017 #163

All due respect to Bernie, we need new leadership. Younger leadership. West coast leadership. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #155

No, just no. He is too divisive. Nonhlanhla Mar 2017 #157

This very thread is proof of his divisive nature. liquid diamond Mar 2017 #160

is he a dem yet? samnsara Mar 2017 #159

Ugh! Bernie, please go away! nikibatts Mar 2017 #162

He hasn't been acting like a leader. Plus he's not a Democrat. He likes to be an agitator and is kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #164

Love & Respect furtheradu Mar 2017 #165

Registered Independant Bernie Sanders just called the Democratic Party feeble SticksnStones Mar 2017 #166