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Showing Original Post only (View all)Sernie Banders: A Thought Experiment [View all]
Let's think this through, together.
What is the Democratic coalition? Democratic politicians and party members, and other politicians and other voters who will often vote Democratic or support Democratic policies.
What would one do if they wanted to weaken the Democratic coalition?
If I wanted to weaken the Democratic coalition, I would want to drive wedges between the different groups.
What would one do if they wanted to strengthen the Democratic coalition?
If I wanted to strengthen the Democratic coalition, I would want to emphasize what the different groups have in common, and how they can work together towards common goals.
Tom Perez, the head of the DNC, is someone who has an interest in strengthening the Democratic coalition. He seems to be doing this by bringing different members of the Democratic coalition together and working with them, emphasizing their common interests, and using different parts of the Democratic coalition to excite and unite the different members of the Democratic coalition.
Personally, as someone who wants to strengthen the Democratic coalition, I welcome all members of the Democratic coalition, whether they are Democratic party members or not, to work together with us towards common goals. I personally am a Democrat, but I love that there are other people who, even though they are not Democrats, work with the party to further goals that help all Americans.
Now, if one wanted to weaken the Democratic coalition, how might one drive a wedge between the different parts of the Democratic coalition?
Well, for example, let's posit the existence of a really popular politician who isn't a Democrat, but who is part of the Democratic coalition. Let's further assume that this politician is the most popular politician in the country right now.
If I wanted to weaken the Democratic coalition, I would want to drive a wedge between the Democratic party, and this very popular politician. Let's call this politician Sernie Banders, for the sake of this wildly fantastic thought experiment.
How might one do that?
You might, for example, compile lists of every criticism that Sernie Banders ever made about the Democratic party. You might, for example, go on and on and on (and on and on and on and on) about how Sernie Banders is not a member of the Democratic party, and imply he should be hated and not trusted because of that. As if it mattered.
You might, for example, find constructive criticism from that politician, advising the Democratic party not to be harlots for the Wall Street banks, and cast that as criticism (heaven forfend!) of the Democratic party, and emphasize that the Democratic party and this politician should never work together.
You might, for example, keep a nearly constant stream of chatter up with negative stories about Sernie Banders.
If you wanted to weaken the Democratic coalition, you would be afraid of the most popular politician in the country working together with the Democratic party to achieve common goals. You would be pants-peeingly, underwear-poopingly, afraid of that.
Fortunately, this is all just a thought experiment, and nothing like this is happening in the communities of the Democratic coalition. In those communities, we recognize allies and work together toward common goals. And we welcome the allegiance of allies from any and all other parties.
In the world of the thought experiment, though, the stuck pigs squeal the loudest.
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New poll out strongly supports this. 57% favorability. Pence is next most popular.
JudyM
Apr 2017
#83
Not in the 2016 election (though I'm sure there were lots, there always are)
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#166
You're just playing games so you can "deny" the obvious. Most of us aren't buying it.
George II
Apr 2017
#78
Oh, I'm keeping up, probably more than you either wanted or expected anyone to do so.
George II
Apr 2017
#87
Other things you might theoretically do if you wanted to weaken the Democratic coalition
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#6
There are no "negative stories about Bernie Sanders". There are threads about his actual rhetoric.
KittyWampus
Apr 2017
#7
The childish "Sernie Banders" dodge notwithstanding, all one need do is watch this:
George II
Apr 2017
#107
So Bernie says that the Democratic party "is gonna have to open its doors to Independents". WTFDTM??
NurseJackie
Apr 2017
#117
Who held the House against the Republicans health care bill? Sanders or Pelosi?
KittyWampus
Apr 2017
#11
Indeed minority leader Pelosi is a very effective and valued member of the Democratic
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#18
The DNC and Perez are parading Bernie around the country. Take a look at those charts again
yodermon
Apr 2017
#35
Something else one would do, if one theoretically wanted to drive a wedge between
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#10
Your OP and repeated attempts to insinuate that those of us who object to Sanders' rhetoric
KittyWampus
Apr 2017
#14
Head of outreach for the party you'd think would stop with saying negative things about the party
brush
Apr 2017
#22
and yet the head of the party thinks he's an excellent person for that position
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#34
Seemed like a good idea at the time but as in life, some hires work out, others don't.
brush
Apr 2017
#53
Sounds good but ditch the negativity about the party. It cancels out the good so you get no where.
brush
Apr 2017
#69
Posting on DU is not activism. I strengthen the Democratic coalition by helping out in local
FSogol
Apr 2017
#31
I see that you are very interested in strengthening the Democratic coalition
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#24
Exactly he is interested in the revolution he's beeen talking about for decades......
Historic NY
Apr 2017
#88
I wish that was true of all that claim that they alone have the corner on "progressive ideas" (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#72
ok so now sernie banders is on my trash list. BTW not a hater just sick of reading about him
kydo
Apr 2017
#27
And if you want to weaken the coalition by alienating women and minorities ...
frazzled
Apr 2017
#30
Another even more material method to destroy the democratic coalition would be
Fresh_Start
Apr 2017
#37
You fail to see that Sernie Banders constant negative statements about the Democrats
Fresh_Start
Apr 2017
#64
It's not true that some in the party would rather maintain the status quo?
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#163
Would that include saying ideas of more liberal members of your coalition are "fucking retarded"?
That Guy 888
Apr 2017
#144
ah, but you see, there are some who argue that he is supporting the wrong kinds of Democrats
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#162
Hmm... Ask someone who has mentally challanged relatives. I was alerted for quoting him once.
That Guy 888
Apr 2017
#168
That wasn't the context. It was addressed to a group who wanted to run a neg ad about a Senator
emulatorloo
Apr 2017
#169
Thanks for finding that. I wanted to correct Fresh Start's misremembering the context.
emulatorloo
Apr 2017
#172
No, the ads Rahm hated were against conservative Democrats not backing the Affordable Care Act. n/t
That Guy 888
Apr 2017
#173
When one insists on his way or the highway, how does that 'strengthen' a coalition? (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#70
There's a major flaw in your hypothesis, he is NOT "the most popular politician in the country"!
George II
Apr 2017
#73
Well, since you're now pointing out that your premise is based on fiction, no sense going on...
George II
Apr 2017
#86
Which is it? You seem to be losing track of your explanations of your own "thought experiment" sadly
George II
Apr 2017
#115
No no, according to the OP... pointing out that Bernie is constantly belittling the Democratic party
KittyWampus
Apr 2017
#84
"You are insisting that being a Democrat REQUIRES accepting without question Bernie"
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#170
Well, there was the poster on the board recently that claimed Sanders had said
ProfessorPlum
Apr 2017
#175
I am so glad that your hypothetical Sernie Banders so doesn't drive wedges between various Democrats
beastie boy
Apr 2017
#85
Got it. Sernie's capricious choices on who to support and who to bash in the coalition are a boon...
beastie boy
Apr 2017
#114