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vi5

(13,305 posts)
17. O.K.?
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 04:44 PM
Apr 2017

Not sure what you are saying? I agree. Many of those groups for obvious reasons recognize why civil rights, human rights, and economic equality are linked beyond question. They see it every day and they know. But I'm not sure how that absolves or lets Democrats off the hook for selling that same message to any other group. I don't think it would be contradictory in any way. Human rights and civil rights extend to an economic message. The Democratic party just needs to get better at selling that point. They don't have to change a single bit of their message but they also can't expect "This group gets it. Why don't YOU get it?!?!" to be a resonant message.

The thing is, the Democratic party USED to be good at this.

I'm a white guy from a working class family of white guys. Growing up, my extended family were all staunch democrats. Even when Democrats were fighting for and standing for civil rights and women's rights and all human rights, my family never said "Oh well, sure the Democrats are fighting for workers rights and unions and all of that, but I'm not going to support them because they also support women's rights and civil rights." It wasn't a question then because the Democrats did a good job selling their message that they stood for ALL people that needed to be stood for.

It's only the past 10-15 years or so that they've been somehow unable to mesh both of their key messages.

K to the R musette_sf Apr 2017 #1
Simple: "The Democratic Party is the non-treason party" Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #3
This just proves again.... vi5 Apr 2017 #4
Absolutely agree, and apparently so does Pelosi. JudyM Apr 2017 #6
Messaging isn't an issue when it comes to black women and other minority groups JI7 Apr 2017 #12
O.K.? vi5 Apr 2017 #17
They voted against people like feingold and strickland JI7 Apr 2017 #18
Uh....I agree.... vi5 Apr 2017 #27
perhaps that is exactly what the poll is saying 0rganism Apr 2017 #13
Our party gets hit by the repugs and also by those alledged to be our allies. All effin campaign... brush Apr 2017 #26
Well.... vi5 Apr 2017 #28
IMO the messaging has to work along with an effort to stop repug cheating brush Apr 2017 #30
Let it go.... vi5 May 2017 #31
It's a very effective teqnique. kcr May 2017 #33
Repubs LISTEN to people like Luntz and Gingrich about how to use language tblue37 Apr 2017 #29
Excellent Me. Apr 2017 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #7
Welcome to DU! PatSeg Apr 2017 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #10
Well, that was quick, sigh PatSeg May 2017 #36
I have to agree with you PatSeg Apr 2017 #8
To harp on a common theme: salesmanship Nevernose Apr 2017 #11
It's hard to compete with bald-faced lies. Adrahil Apr 2017 #16
And ironically, I think it's white people to blame for the racists Nevernose Apr 2017 #21
Right. On. The. Money. vi5 May 2017 #32
It's not about being down to earth.the trump trash is not down to earth JI7 Apr 2017 #14
Forgot to add ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #15
this is really not going to change as long as dems ignore Rcon radio certainot Apr 2017 #19
Most of the American public are clueless, misinformed and subject to R-wing propaganda. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #20
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2017 #22
The reason some conspiracy theorists think we are 'out of touch'... Shandris Apr 2017 #23
Yes, mind control ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #25
When some seemingly willfully ignore kcr May 2017 #34
hillary got millions more votes, dems for congress got millions more votes than repubs. out of touch msongs Apr 2017 #24
K&R betsuni May 2017 #35
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