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H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:21 PM May 2017

The Wall Comes Tumbling Down [View all]

“I deny everything I say, because everything I say is a lie. And everything I deny is a lie, too.”
– Groucho Marx


Rational people knew that candidate Trump was lying when he told gullible crowds that he would build a wall between the Unites States and Mexico. More, he appealed to these people's ugliest instincts, promising them that Mexico would foot the entire bill for this wall. Trump, of course, must have known that this would never happen. His actual purpose was to stir the pot of hatred and fear that – if it boiled over – might help make him to “win” an election.

Trump's campaign and his presidency have attempted to create other walls within America. He has exploited divides between citizens. He's attacked individuals and institutions. In doing so, he serves as a perfect illustration of the reality that those who hate, become hate, and thus are hated. And this is the only quasi-positive thing that can be said about him.

Past presidents have been notorious liars. Lyndon Johnson lied to his friends, Richard Nixon to his enemies. But Trump is by far the worst ever. Likewise, there have been serious divisions between Americans before. The Civil War is an obvious example. The 1960s – '70s is another. The significant difference is that today, there is a president who purposely has added fuel to the fires of division.

One hundred and twenty-two days into the Trump presidency, the chickens are coming home to roost. The pace of the unraveling of the lies and corruption of the campaign/administration is building momentum. We are living in historic times.

A number of people – mainly young, but also some of my generation – that I communicate with are expressing frustrations that the process is taking too long. Actually, it is moving along at the best pace possible. A key to that is found in a second concern expressed: republicans in DC are unlikely to move to impeach Trump.

Last week, MSNBC's Joy Reid (an absolute treasure in the mainstream media) made a point that deserves far greater attention than it has received. Those republicans facing re-election campaigns next year are already contacting their major donors. And those donors are becoming increasingly upset by the circus of ass-clowns in the administration. They are unlikely to invest in an effort to protect this self-destructive administration.

I've frequently advocated that people read Malcolm Nance's book on the Russian-Trump connections. What we are witnessing today is exactly what he spoke about in his wonderful book, and has said on various news programs in recent months. In a very real sense, this is much like the intelligence community's destabilizing of foreign governments in the past.

Reports that the Assistant Attorney General's naming a Special Counsel do not name Trump's son-n-law, but he is the fellow inside the White House that is of special focus. This is due to his coordination with Eric Prince, and attendance of the secret meeting on the island off the African coast. This was an attempt to create an outside-of-government operation to coordinate with Russian interests – much like the Reagan-Bush administration's Iran-Contra operations.

The intelligence community is also relying upon evaluations of Trump's personality traits. Trump does not, as we all know, deal with “bad news” well. Hence, the early morning tweets, etc, that his administration tries to normalize. And Trump's uncanny compulsion to publicly contradict their efforts within 24 hours. Thus, morale within the White House is sinking lower and lower daily, and the hiring of personal legal representation is increasing at the same pace.

The wall that Donald Trump attempted to build is tumbling down.

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Thanks for such a cogent summary dalton99a May 2017 #1
Thank you. H2O Man May 2017 #3
A big, fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy May 2017 #2
Thanks, Peggy! H2O Man May 2017 #4
Which movie? CaliforniaPeggy May 2017 #11
"All the President's Men." H2O Man May 2017 #23
Oh, of course! CaliforniaPeggy May 2017 #34
Well done, thank you H20 saidsimplesimon May 2017 #5
Thanks. H2O Man May 2017 #6
I liked when he refused to join any club that would accept him as a member. Ligyron May 2017 #44
I'd like to believe it Caliman73 May 2017 #7
I hear you! H2O Man May 2017 #8
We've also learned of our new vulnerabilities to social media manipulation Pluvious May 2017 #12
Right. H2O Man May 2017 #25
Yes it does burrowowl May 2017 #70
Thanks for sharing your insight. pangaia May 2017 #14
I have to agree H2O Man May 2017 #27
Jared's actual title for his made up position in Trump's (mis)administration tblue37 May 2017 #9
No coincidence. H2O Man May 2017 #29
Do you mind if I share with attribution? mac56 May 2017 #10
Feel free to. H2O Man May 2017 #24
May the wall never get built! Initech May 2017 #13
Right. H2O Man May 2017 #36
He'll have a groundbreaking ceremony akin to George Bluth from Arrested Development. Initech May 2017 #37
President Obama bucolic_frolic May 2017 #15
True, that. H2O Man May 2017 #45
K&R Scurrilous May 2017 #16
Thanks! H2O Man May 2017 #46
his entire campaign was a fraud. nothing more. nothing less. spanone May 2017 #17
Right. H2O Man May 2017 #47
I disagree.... Joe Nation May 2017 #18
Yep, he hasn't a clue FakeNoose May 2017 #38
Interesting. H2O Man May 2017 #48
Republicans! Look how far you have come from "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall." tclambert May 2017 #19
How far they have sunk ..... H2O Man May 2017 #50
Ah yes, the Blackwater Overlord... countryjake May 2017 #20
That's a key point. H2O Man May 2017 #53
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2017 #21
Thanks! H2O Man May 2017 #54
K & R nt cate94 May 2017 #22
Thanks! H2O Man May 2017 #55
Just finished reading Blue_Roses May 2017 #26
Right! H2O Man May 2017 #28
I actually wondered about that Blue_Roses May 2017 #30
Oh, he is involved. H2O Man May 2017 #31
I saw a recent H2O Man May 2017 #56
lol... Blue_Roses May 2017 #58
He's Always Been A Liar Me. May 2017 #32
That's outstanding! H2O Man May 2017 #39
'They Say' Me. May 2017 #40
Right. H2O Man May 2017 #57
Given The Disputes Here On DU Regarding Taylor & Mensch Me. May 2017 #69
Sing him on out, Pete Seeger and the Weavers! Tanuki May 2017 #33
This, Tanuki! Hekate May 2017 #42
Beautiful! H2O Man May 2017 #59
You're like a DU port in a storm, H20 Man. democrank May 2017 #35
Thanks! H2O Man May 2017 #60
Thanks for this as always. I read it aloud to my husband.... Hekate May 2017 #41
Thanks! H2O Man May 2017 #61
Change, in people and in institutions is slow. So frustrating. BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #43
So true! H2O Man May 2017 #63
I love the metaphor. BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #68
I think, he actually believed that as POTUS he could bully Mexico into paying for the wall. DetlefK May 2017 #49
Valid points. H2O Man May 2017 #64
Humpty Trumpy - just for fun moonseller66 May 2017 #51
Very good! H2O Man May 2017 #65
One gigantic deplorable..... pbmus May 2017 #52
Yikes! H2O Man May 2017 #66
Excellent summary. Tatiana May 2017 #62
Interesting points. H2O Man May 2017 #67
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