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79. No, he's not talking about white middle class men like himself. n/t

Reply to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 02:58 PM

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Rant: "People who work for a living; people who take a shower after work"...WTF is that? [View all] riversedge Jun 2017 OP

I take my daily shower in the morning, not after work. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2017 #1

I know, you are supposed to take a shower in the morning... snooper2 Jun 2017 #6

? You go to bed clean in clean sheets and do nothing but sleep. You wake up clean... Hekate Jun 2017 #111

Yes! I shower at night sometimes because I am so not a morning person smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #126

I could never sleep if I didn't shower or take a bath at night... Lucinda Jun 2017 #161

I have long hair.... usedtobedemgurl Jun 2017 #128

It is about the kind of job you do...it is about middle class people who work in hot sweaty Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #16

Which mythologizes factory workers and ignores the service and retail workers who are really hurting bettyellen Jun 2017 #68

The job are being eliminated for many different groups and it needs to stop. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #71

I'll never understand why so many liberals hated Obama's auto bailout bettyellen Jun 2017 #73

It literally saved my ass...my hubs worked for GM Lordstown. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #87

Having lived thru the Obama years at DU, I think it was because ... Hekate Jun 2017 #112

The same people are asking Dems to kiss WWC ass by soft pedaling support for women and POC but no bettyellen Jun 2017 #117

I thought the auto bailout was brilliant on all scores. Saved an industry, a lot of jobs... Hekate Jun 2017 #119

Yeah. I thought anyone who argued against it was knee jerk anti corporate- and forgot auto workers bettyellen Jun 2017 #122

No it did not get paid back. former9thward Jun 2017 #154

I was grateful for it and I don't work for GM. Ilsa Jun 2017 #129

Service and retail jobs in general suck in terms of money and benefits...and they are disappearing Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #88

But it's a huge sector that surged after factories disappeared.... bettyellen Jun 2017 #89

As a business person Chuuku Davis Jun 2017 #134

As did the factory- but somehow that rust belt man gets ALL the attention- why? bettyellen Jun 2017 #136

I had to take 2 showers yesterday....the humidity was 85% DK504 Jun 2017 #36

Same, two showers a day in the summer. sarcasmo Jun 2017 #76

It depends on the type of work you do - farmers needs showers AFTER work csziggy Jun 2017 #103

In the summer I might take two to three showers a day madokie Jun 2017 #148

This is a sanitized way to dog whistle to white working class bigots EffieBlack Jun 2017 #2

You know I am a liberal Democrat, and I resent your post. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #20

That post wasn't directed at your son or people like him. It was directed at pnwmom Jun 2017 #44

People herendon't think that way. But here the best jobs are factory jobs. And Ryan Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #47

The problem is those factory jobs, for the most part, aren't coming back. kcr Jun 2017 #50

Then this country is finished...and so are the Dems in the rust belt. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #69

We won't do it until we stop treating the country like a business. haele Jun 2017 #81

I agree with you completely. And Tim Ryan is afraid of losing in 18. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #86

Beautiful. Thank you! EffieBlack Jun 2017 #91

Do you recognize that money currently has no borders? Moostache Jun 2017 #82

I understand the game but other countries are navigating the issues without destroying their Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #85

Gotta break it to ya, there will never be government support with the GOP, only lip service. tonyt53 Jun 2017 #110

Of course I am aware of that. I always vote Democratic, but others won't Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #125

Any politician who is serious about jobs will be trying to increase spending for green energy jobs, pnwmom Jun 2017 #67

Why are you offended? EffieBlack Jun 2017 #90

Oh great melman Jun 2017 #123

Clearly, this is exactly what Ryan is saying. Eom pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #30

"White working class" is not always synonymous with bigots whathehell Jun 2017 #60

I didn't say it was. EffieBlack Jun 2017 #92

I know you didn't. whathehell Jun 2017 #121

Also a dog-whistle against educated professionals DBoon Jun 2017 #63

Bull crap, I worked in a steel mill for forty years and I worked doc03 Jun 2017 #105

Defensive much? EffieBlack Jun 2017 #106

That's why we keep losing elections. The Democratic party shoved the doc03 Jun 2017 #108

You apparently are having trouble with basic reading comprehension, so I'll repeat it again EffieBlack Jun 2017 #115

I am sure you have the best of intentions DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #120

It's impossible to discuss the issue of racism without saying bigots exist- yet people ask us to, bettyellen Jun 2017 #130

You don't see a difference between saying bigots exist DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #133

Yes, and I'm not seeing anyone say they are ALL bigots. that's bullshit. bettyellen Jun 2017 #135

You have every right to feel superior to anyone you want DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #142

I don't feel superior or angry, don't give a fuck if bigots know I dislike their bigotry! Why cower bettyellen Jun 2017 #144

The 1st mistake is to assume that all poor white people are bigots DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #145

Again. No one is saying that except for YOU. That's YOUR mistake. bettyellen Jun 2017 #146

No one is saying that? DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #149

You're doing everything you can to circle the wagon around bigots- why exactly? bettyellen Jun 2017 #150

No I'm really not. DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #151

You're advocating ignoring the "cultural anxiety" as an issue so as not to offend who? bettyellen Jun 2017 #152

I never said a damn thing about "cultural anxiety" DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #153

It's also difficult to discuss racism when people who say they're not bigots are so eager to play EffieBlack Jun 2017 #139

They're literally trying to make it impossible to discuss bigotry- and considering the huge role bettyellen Jun 2017 #140

Do you actually know any poor white people? DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #143

Yes, I do. EffieBlack Jun 2017 #155

The purpose of the question DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #156

You need to stop with the bullshit allegation you keep making against me if you want to engage in EffieBlack Jun 2017 #157

That is the entire basis of the position DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author EffieBlack Jun 2017 #141

I agree (nt) XRubicon Jun 2017 #132

It's patronizing. kcr Jun 2017 #3

His seat is endangered. I don't think it is really is ...but he does. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #22

And the teachers, nurses and clerks will lose their jobs if the factories go down...so you know that Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #23

Will it help them when Dems lose because of his bullshit? kcr Jun 2017 #26

Hey, I called his office and complained twice now. And will call again Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #34

No one is throwing your son under the bus by calling out Tim Ryan kcr Jun 2017 #41

No he needs to be called out for it...I merely gave my opinion of why he is doing it...and i think Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #48

But Ryan is the one who is doing that. kcr Jun 2017 #52

My son who knows Ryan does not see it this way...you see this way...and why is that? Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #75

Your son isn't his part of his target audience EffieBlack Jun 2017 #93

Republican congressmen shower after "work...." pokerfan Jun 2017 #100

Exactly ! patronizing phony pandering. Everyone working is equal and contributing lunasun Jun 2017 #113

This is a rehash of Ed Schultz's schtick EffieBlack Jun 2017 #4

He was talking about people who did physical labor.. whathehell Jun 2017 #77

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #5

Have you never worked a job where you came home so dirty and sweaty that you had to take a shower? DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #7

Apparently that is offensive! lol nt m-lekktor Jun 2017 #9

Yes, but why this divisive talk when Democrats need to get together? yardwork Jun 2017 #11

I just don't see it as divisive DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #15

But that's the opposite of the message he's sending. yardwork Jun 2017 #65

It's another form of "identity politics" EffieBlack Jun 2017 #94

I don't think the "versus" is a necessary component DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #116

And that is indicative of precisely what? LanternWaste Jun 2017 #18

Those are the people who have already felt the impact of automation mythology Jun 2017 #32

It is not just automation...jobs that still exist have been shipped overseas Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #49

Most times, yes. Even working office jobs, which is what this BS "shower" metric is belittling. haele Jun 2017 #31

You read all that into a politician using shorthand for blue collar workers? DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #40

Here's the problem with "shorthand for blue collar". It's the definition of "blue collar". haele Jun 2017 #58

My daughter in law and son worked at GM...she is a woman. GM hires many women. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #51

I'm retired Navy and worked shipyards; been the only woman in my workplaces most of my life. haele Jun 2017 #61

Unfortunately jobs are disappearing everywhere ...all fields. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #74

He is belittling college educated urban liberal professionals DBoon Jun 2017 #64

Why don't they understand. These people just need a reason to take a shower again! kcr Jun 2017 #38

So now we mock blue collar workers here? DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #43

It wasn't the blue collar workers I was mocking n/t kcr Jun 2017 #45

Apparently your sophisticated wit was lost on me. n/t DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #46

+1000. stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #56

Try three times a day roscoeroscoe Jun 2017 #55

I come in from work, work all evening then take a shower before bed. ileus Jun 2017 #8

the attack on Pelosi originated on the right bigtree Jun 2017 #10

That's exactly what's going on. yardwork Jun 2017 #13

+1 dalton99a Jun 2017 #19

Huh. Stupid thing to say ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #12

He is talking about factories...where it is dirty and hot... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #14

Retired now... quickesst Jun 2017 #17

White men. That is what he means. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #21

What did Mrs. Clinton mean in 2008? DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #28

She meant white people too. Not sure what your point is. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #29

+1000. stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #57

No, he's not talking about white middle class men like himself. n/t whathehell Jun 2017 #79

funny though, GOP voters are wealthier than D voters. DJT specifically had the wealthiest of voters La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #80

I worked in a steel mill with a lot of black men, you saying they don't doc03 Jun 2017 #107

She won't answer that. romanic Jun 2017 #159

I'm really starting to dislike him. Vinca Jun 2017 #24

I'm already past that point. I very much dislike him. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #127

A variation on "people who work hard and play by the rules" loyalsister Jun 2017 #25

Amen JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #35

Bootstraps! leftstreet Jun 2017 #70

I smell his white male privilege coming thru my screen. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #27

Ryan wasn't clever enough not to be so very obvious to us. This is the man that Pelosi pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #33

tim ryan needs to look in the mirror. Cha Jun 2017 #37

I thought that name was familiar. kcr Jun 2017 #42

Lordy, I used to take a whore's bath midday in the courthouse Persisted Jun 2017 #95

Yeah, I'm a Cha Jun 2017 #96

I am lucky enough to have an outside shower which I use from March until November. Persisted Jun 2017 #97

My son has an outside Cha Jun 2017 #99

East Coast outside shower in March is... bracing. Persisted Jun 2017 #101

HE'S the guy who doesn't shower after work.... spanone Jun 2017 #39

I live alone and I tend to shower before work for the sake of others. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #53

My opinion is that the Republican brand is the toxic one Zing Zing Zingbah Jun 2017 #54

My opinion is Ryan's turning toxic in his desire for Pelosi's job. emulatorloo Jun 2017 #104

I work at a manufacturing facility. tammywammy Jun 2017 #59

Tin Ryan is not a Progressive. He is the bluest of Blue Dogs. Right up there with Manchin. LuvLoogie Jun 2017 #62

He's a conservadem for sure. I have no clue some DU'ers can't see thru him. emulatorloo Jun 2017 #84

Isn't he the one who said blueinredohio Jun 2017 #66

I felt like taking a shower after listening to that. dawg Jun 2017 #72

My dad showered before and after work - Construction Foreman Lebam in LA Jun 2017 #78

If I worked in Congress I couldn't take enough showers to milestogo Jun 2017 #83

Somebody who believes "his" brand is toxic needs to find himself another brand. UTUSN Jun 2017 #98

I guess you don't know this but if you work in a factory, steel mill, coal mine, doc03 Jun 2017 #102

I've always found that a weird litmus test. Insulting, too. High humidity... Hekate Jun 2017 #109

He needs to be primaried nini Jun 2017 #114

On the other hand, Coastal Elites take long, leisurely baths ... betsuni Jun 2017 #118

Bingo Hekate Jun 2017 #124

they play condescending "free jazz " too... deliberately to make you feel bad about yourself. JHan Jun 2017 #138

LOL! betsuni Jun 2017 #147

During nt Flaleftist Jun 2017 #160

I'm eco friendly retrowire Jun 2017 #131

If ya ain't stinkin' ya ain't thinkin'! :D Adrahil Jun 2017 #137