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Madam45for2923

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Sun Jul 23, 2017, 12:19 PM Jul 2017

Pardons' acceptance require admitting guilt IMPEACHMENT. PLUS-cannot pardon NY or NJ State crimes. [View all]

Pardons' acceptance require admitting guilt = IMPEACHMENT. PLUS-cannot pardon NY or NJ State crimes.

Why Trump Critics Should Pray He Pardons Himself

...It shouldn’t.

In fact, if President Trump were to pardon himself, it would make him ripe for impeachment. No, I don’t mean that pardoning himself would amount to obstruction of justice or some other offense that he could theoretically be charged with if Congress stretches the facts to fit some statute. I mean that the pardon itself could be all the evidence Democrats need to oust Trump.

See, what a lot of people don’t realize is that a pardon isn’t simply a get out of jail free card that says a person has done nothing wrong. Quite the opposite, in order to accept a pardon, a person has to admit wrongdoing. According to the Supreme Court’s 1915 decision in Burdick v. United States, a pardon “carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it.”

That means that if Trump were to pardon himself for an offense, he would have to confess to it first. This element was a key factor in President Gerald Ford‘s decision to pardon President Richard Nixon. It assured that Nixon at least fess up to his crimes before being absolved.

This is important because Section II, Article 2 of the Constitution says that the President “shall have the power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.” So while Trump may be able to use a pardon to protect himself from federal prosecution, it wouldn’t prevent him from being impeached.

The impeachment process, of course, demands evidence in order to file charges, or articles of impeachment, and evidence would then be brought before the Senate, who would vote on whether or not to remove the President from office.

What stronger evidence against a President could there be than an official, on the record admission that he did something wrong?

I wonder if Trump’s lawyers told him that.


http://lawnewz.com/opinion/why-trump-critics-should-pray-he-pardons-himself/



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Donald's life more limited than he realizes. Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #1
Did I mention he cannot pardon State's crimes? Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #2
Just to confirm, everyone that has accepted a pardon has admitted guilt? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #3
Some don't accept the pardon because of that. Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #4
Is there a requirement to admit guilt publically? Not Ruth Jul 2017 #5
How can someone refuse a pardon? Jersey Devil Jul 2017 #13
Look up George Wilson NobodyHere Jul 2017 #14
Thanks, read it, but it makes no sense Jersey Devil Jul 2017 #17
There was some proceeding for Arnold Jones to reject Obama's clemency NobodyHere Jul 2017 #21
Accepting pardon does not have to require admitting guilt. See Nixon. (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2017 #6
The act alone of accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. Kaleva Jul 2017 #15
I don't think this is correct. unblock Jul 2017 #7
A person who rejects a pardon can then still plead the 5th during testimony Kaleva Jul 2017 #19
No, that's simply not true Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #25
Experts say otherwise Kaleva Jul 2017 #26
That's someone's interpretation and not actual law Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #27
There's is Burdick v. United States Kaleva Jul 2017 #28
I don't think Nixon officially "fessed up" at the time of his pardon. enough Jul 2017 #8
The very definition of pardon confers guilt The Blue Flower Jul 2017 #9
For this thread Gothmog Jul 2017 #10
Good tweets there! Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #11
There is no need for anyone to "accept" a pardon Jersey Devil Jul 2017 #12
George Wilson and the Supreme Court disagrees NobodyHere Jul 2017 #16
That case is from 1833 and of little value Jersey Devil Jul 2017 #18
the prosecutors and/or the courts may not be aware of the pardon. unblock Jul 2017 #24
What about posthumous pardons? Jersey Devil Jul 2017 #20
A posthumous pardon is like pardoning the Thanksgiving turkey Kaleva Jul 2017 #23
Did Weinberger ever admit guilt? Yupster Jul 2017 #22
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