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haele

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29. Greenwald is a at best a contrarian. He thrives on disruption of systems, progressive or not.
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 02:28 PM
Aug 2017

There's a big problem with people like Greenwald who live to "expose hypocrisy" and "tear down/cut out the rot" - especially when they're intelligent or are part of the "intelligentsia" when it comes to social and political discourse.
They tend to be Manichean; and love to blindly use the meat cleavers while proving their philosophy, their morals, their ethics are the right ones.

They never pay attention to the majority of average people who are just trying to survive and might be slow to change a political, social, or economic system they're familiar with. The "Dragon Slayers" have already decided anyone who says "well, wait a minute, let's look at the entire situation and see what will make a positive difference for everyone in the long run..." is against them and is part of the corrupt system.

I've read Greenwald's books until he got to the point I started channeling my inner Dorothy Parker. He's no Stieglitz or Chomsky, and never was in a political sense. He writes better than Ayn Rand, but they're not that much different at heart. Even when he was the "Liberal Darling" during the Bush Era, he was still writing more Anti-American Society screed than Anti-Bush screed.

Back during the Bush years, he wanted his version new, improved Strong Man/Hero of the Peoples in charge, not the GOP Business interests. He was always pointing out the "stupidity" or "complacency" of the electorate - that means you and me who vote for whatever our own ethics and interests drive us to vote.

Ultimately, Greenwald has shown he's a Leninist, like Bannon. Tear it all down, start over, - he's just "kinder and gentler" because he "cares" about the little guys and the downtrodden masses - but in reality, he's really just another Authoritarian who wants to tell other people the best way to live rather than deal the messy real world that most of us have to live in.
No Diplomacy, No "Consideration", and certainly no reconsideration. He's so smart he's never wrong, and you're a corrupt enabler for even suggesting he's not thinking things through...

Haele


Wonkette has a real way with words! 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2017 #1
lol. Greenwald is the most intelligent man onit2day Aug 2017 #19
do you share his belief that career public servants in the federal civil service geek tragedy Aug 2017 #22
Greenwood and Bannon are cut of the same cloth Hamlette Aug 2017 #27
hare-brained maxsolomon Aug 2017 #33
I like hair brained ChubbyStar Aug 2017 #35
Greenwald is a at best a contrarian. He thrives on disruption of systems, progressive or not. haele Aug 2017 #29
I think this sums GG up quite well. n/t bloom Aug 2017 #36
Seems Legit lol. stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #32
No one wants Greenwald on their side Progressive dog Aug 2017 #44
Greenwald can go pound sand as far as I've been concernef for a long time. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2017 #48
You can keep him on your side. Nt Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #49
Nope. He's not very intelligent and he's not terribly great at his Ninsianna Aug 2017 #62
Holy moly...that made my morning. BootinUp Aug 2017 #2
Greenwald is a Russian agent alcibiades_mystery Aug 2017 #3
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #21
I think you're right Progressive dog Aug 2017 #45
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2017 #4
Who cares what Greenwald thinks? Gothmog Aug 2017 #5
Bravo! MineralMan Aug 2017 #6
back in the day, I never could figure out what Greenwald's trip was paulkienitz Aug 2017 #7
Yeah not fooled Aug 2017 #52
K&R ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #8
Love the Wonkette. byronius Aug 2017 #9
I am haunted by that Scaramucci remark about some are in WH to save us from Trump librechik Aug 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author BadgerMom Aug 2017 #14
Excellent takedown. n/t hlthe2b Aug 2017 #11
Greenwald's platform, The Intercept, is also lapucelle Aug 2017 #12
K&R mcar Aug 2017 #13
K & R BadgerMom Aug 2017 #15
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2017 #16
Poor Glenn radical noodle Aug 2017 #17
GreenwaldSnowdenPutin brush Aug 2017 #18
Propaganda. Neither of these two support Putin onit2day Aug 2017 #20
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Foamfollower Aug 2017 #28
Snowden is supported by Putin and Greenwald helped get him there... brush Aug 2017 #40
Where does Snowden live TO THIS DAY?! uponit7771 Aug 2017 #41
How's the weather in Minsk? BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #42
LOL Scurrilous Aug 2017 #51
They do deal in propaganda, and they're supported BY Putin. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #63
He minimizes, ignores, and lies about Russia's role Bradical79 Aug 2017 #66
I'd pay more attention to the Wonkette if she . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #23
Greenwald is peddling the Breitbart/alt-right myth that a "deep state" geek tragedy Aug 2017 #25
In some cases, it's hard to "overuse obscenities." maddiemom Aug 2017 #31
I wonder if she talks that way in front of her FairWinds Aug 2017 #57
When it gets to the gender shaming, it's clear that the truth hurts. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #64
Of course it goes without saying . . FairWinds Aug 2017 #67
Lol, yep. And I don't think we've yet invented words Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #60
For a while there, maddiemom Aug 2017 #24
I got sick of him years ago. GoCubsGo Aug 2017 #30
yeah - it concerns me - the folks who still follow him (and trust him) :( n/t bloom Aug 2017 #37
I think his name is Jimmy Dore. Kurovski Aug 2017 #38
Sorry; stand corrected. maddiemom Aug 2017 #56
His putin apologism is what lost me with Greenwald rpannier Aug 2017 #50
YES! I totally agree! SkyDaddy7 Aug 2017 #54
Wonkette is one of my go to sites that I check every day. Mickju Aug 2017 #26
Kick. dalton99a Aug 2017 #34
Hate to say I told you so.... Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #39
F**k GG! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #43
Greenwald like Snowden is anti-American! hrmjustin Aug 2017 #46
"Oh go fuck yourself, Glenn Greenwald" orangecrush Aug 2017 #47
K & R . Fabulous, expletive laden takedown of greenwald's assholery ... JHan Aug 2017 #53
Yes, Greenwald and his weirdo friends are dumb. betsuni Aug 2017 #55
Thank you geek saidsimplesimon Aug 2017 #58
Brilliance... Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #59
Those were the days eh Egnever Aug 2017 #61
all 50 of those folks have relocated to the Troll Commune nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #65
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