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In reply to the discussion: What the Media Got Wrong About Last Weekends Protests in Berkeley [View all]ancianita
(36,055 posts)what works. He describes. He does not prescribe. He's afraid. But he knows where uncontrolled Naziism leads. He falls back on rule of law which isn't systematically applied across 50 separate legal jurisdictions.
When you claim antifa use of due force is violent, you dismiss the rightness of their cause. You toss out all their effort and the rightness of their cause because their methods scare you.
You say that because they use the methods of their opponents, they are both the same. They'll never, never be the same.
If we thought our defeating Hitler's armies made us the same, we wouldn't have cared because we knew we were in the right. We know, today, that we are not what we are called; we are what we answer to.
But you'd be the first to stand up for the kid who beats back the bully who comes for everyone's lunch money.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say antifa behavior is a "gift" when you know -- you do know -- the bullies were stopped, white supremacist parades have died down. Antifa counter-intimidations worked.
Furthermore, "everyone" can't deny that Charlottesville anti-fascist protestors proved they can win against white supremacists with their defense. That win was headlined in their local media and in national media.
Don't enlist "everyone." I doubt you know enough people to represent them. No one here has come up with a better way to counter neoNazi groups that have grown in anaerobic darkness since the Civil Rights era. The Southern Poverty Law Center has, for decades, called out for "everyone" to pay attention. Then the death threats come.
Either a united country is worth defending against Naziism or its not. It's illegal in the country of its birth. And so it should be here.
We have to try anything. Continuing to do what hasn't worked since the 1930's is the definition of insanity. We can't stand by and let bullies run the American playground. Everyone wins when everyone defends against them. We need to attack them, not each other.
I support any and all attempts to stop white supremacists. Including yours.
We must never succumb to the fearmongering false equivalencies hurled at us.