What the Media Got Wrong About Last Weekends Protests in Berkeley

[ancianita]

25. Fair enough, free country. Who decides "immediate danger"? Me in my home? Or you, outside my

environment, judging my due force that might blow up into a battle? Many women who've defended themselves against abusive husbands are in jail because the safest judgment was "she was violent, too."

Not every consequence of due force is under the control of the due force user. Due force can be clearly seen when it happens. If you want to see it. I'm only concerned with unfair, lazy, fearful interpreters who wouldn't be caught anywhere near zones of protecting the downtrodden.

Agreed. I'm down for taking off the fucking bandanas. Lots of stuff can make us look like the bad guys. Then again, any confrontation looks ugly. But sometimes the cause calls for ugly. Ugly was in our messy, bloody founding. Later, confederates under Tory subsidy turned a blind eye to their own ugly, so John Brown instigated a fight to lance that ugly, poisonous boil.

The Constitution is on antifa's side. It demands that 1A be regulated such that free speech does not incite fear, intimidation or the threat of force, which are illegal.

I'm down with defensive protections by antifa, but I'm not going to presume to tell brave defenders to vet every participant that suddenly shows up, or drop everything and walk away when one black block asshole suddenly appears. And I won't admonish them to take a knife to a gun fight. Obama wouldn't, either. At some point, who "appears" to be the good guys and bad guys will just have to get sorted out later. It's what happens after the victim fights off the bully.

I endorse getting rid of bullies that oppress people of color in this country. By any means necessary. Ugly problems don't have good looking solutions.

Just my opinion.