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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
159. That struck me too.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:46 AM
Sep 2017

I haven't seen anyone attack the op, just a bunch of atheists objecting to a bigoted trope. I mean that's not up for debate, it's offensive as hell.

But they did used to say we ate babies, and someone did just call us militant, so maybe virtually crucifying people on the internet is the new version of that?

At least no one has used the e-word yet...

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because I use the phrase, doesn't mean I agree with it louis c Sep 2017 #4
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I think you bring your argument to an exteme louis c Sep 2017 #15
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With enough your rationality absolutely will go out the window mythology Sep 2017 #73
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Or you could just accept that in the modern world, phrases mean things, and learn to Ninsianna Sep 2017 #160
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Allow me... Behind the Aegis Sep 2017 #239
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Wow. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #244
No, it was your response, a rather jingoistic, egostistical western one Ninsianna Sep 2017 #261
Agreed. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #161
How do you KNOW Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2017 #227
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I understand though it's a big task if you wish the Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2017 #254
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By your own argument, isn't saying "Magic Man in the sky" offensive? Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #224
We often demand a higher standard in others than we hold ourselves to. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #264
I agree with you. This is a very old statement and your use to make a point is warranted. rustydog Sep 2017 #44
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Exactly. I agree, and it is a great way to make these "no federal help" creeps lose credibility and anneboleyn Sep 2017 #63
Thank you for getting back to the point, the hypocrisy of Cruz and the Texas repugs brush Sep 2017 #178
Exactly this. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #223
To be fair, it's a turn of phrase that drives his point. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #222
Holy shit, someone who gets it louis c Sep 2017 #249
Don't kid yourself--everyone gets it Orrex Sep 2017 #263
Can we agree at least that it was poorly worded? Orrex Sep 2017 #262
It's still insensitive. tymorial Sep 2017 #29
Not just insensitive, but flat wrong. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #128
Charles Rangel used that expression many times. I guess it goes back to a time.... George II Sep 2017 #220
There are numerous examples of language which was once socially tymorial Sep 2017 #252
For the record, I don't like it. Chemisse Sep 2017 #253
Warren is right. When you say "Just as X is true..." you're saying that X is true. Towlie Sep 2017 #36
I got your point Louis without reading too much kacekwl Sep 2017 #89
Holy Cow louis c Sep 2017 #114
I'm also an atheist. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #129
Just to point out, the full definition of "bigot" Crash2Parties Sep 2017 #144
I'm an athiest and I am not offended. I understand the point you were trying smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #148
It's a great thing that liberals are highly intelligent and not authoritarians BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2017 #204
If you don't believe the phrase, then the "just as" doesn't work. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #179
It's meant to be used against our opponents louis c Sep 2017 #236
Even against our political opponents it's fundamentally flawed. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #238
5 Stars in the greatest page louis c Sep 2017 #241
Moving the goalposts doesn't change the worthiness of the criticisms Gore1FL Sep 2017 #251
It's not a pissing contest, at least not until you turned it into one. Orrex Sep 2017 #265
I joined this site because it is called Democratic Underground louis c Sep 2017 #269
Thank you. Solly Mack Sep 2017 #5
Agreed, the FFRF even dedicated a monument to atheist vets: beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #12
Thank you. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #43
AW man? Give it a rest? trof Sep 2017 #48
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Bingo. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #60
So you're pissed off because someone said 'there are no atheists in foxholes'? trof Sep 2017 #72
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OK, ya got me. I had to look up 'trope'. trof Sep 2017 #85
Here's another trope: people who object to bigoted Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #94
I'm pissed. Brainstormy Sep 2017 #97
False. Demonstrably false. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #130
Reminder to players in the 'Take a shot every time an atheist is offended' DU drinking game. betsuni Sep 2017 #170
Silly arguments and objections ... CCExile Sep 2017 #66
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And it appears we're to blame for Trump too. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #99
Liberals arguing inanities certainly aided in the rise of Trump. Liberal "purity tests" ... CCExile Sep 2017 #232
There ya go. trof Sep 2017 #77
or should be louis c Sep 2017 #121
The religious right believe that saying! Why pander Lars39 Sep 2017 #122
Anecdotal. Point is, the statement is FALSE. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #131
The statement is not false to those we're trying to convince. louis c Sep 2017 #218
So, the OP would have been very easy to "fix" Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #229
Here, we have an OP saying the same thing.............. louis c Sep 2017 #234
Good grief. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #256
Thanks louis c Sep 2017 #259
Not sure why you're thanking me. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #266
Indeed. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #90
Yep. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #132
Very true Blecht Sep 2017 #93
Thank you. n/t Brainstormy Sep 2017 #96
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You are kidding. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #155
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... beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #157
Agreed. Plenty of Atheists in Fox holes but onit2day Sep 2017 #201
Yep. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2017 #216
Come on Warren. Cary Sep 2017 #228
Yep! A national emergency is NO time to be a bean counter. calimary Sep 2017 #2
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I'm an agnostic, dyslexic insomniac panader0 Sep 2017 #9
There are a number of circumstances we find ourselves in... yallerdawg Sep 2017 #11
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This is a reference to an appropriate analogy related to the hypocrisy of conservatism. yallerdawg Sep 2017 #18
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I'm an atheist, and a DU member. ChazInAz Sep 2017 #33
Same, and agree. nt. Amimnoch Sep 2017 #91
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #149
I took it the way you took it. Thank you. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #45
"Hic" betsuni Sep 2017 #175
Yes, bigoted atheist trope. Take it from this vet: beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #16
It's a freakin' relatable analogy to the point of the post! yallerdawg Sep 2017 #22
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On the Front Page of DU with "recs." yallerdawg Sep 2017 #28
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It's about hypocrisy and those who practice it. yallerdawg Sep 2017 #37
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Generalites by definition don't apply to every individual. yallerdawg Sep 2017 #69
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For some, apparently not. Thank you again. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #134
Add me to the list. defacto7 Sep 2017 #124
I'm not crucifying anyone, I'm responding to the claim that this isn't a bigoted trope. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #25
Well, that's just the same as crucifying someone. Mariana Sep 2017 #158
That struck me too. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #159
So it would be okay to use a racist trope if it helps an analogy? LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #26
I'm glad you're on our side! yallerdawg Sep 2017 #27
You are NOT on my side if you are okay with this LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #41
Thank you. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #54
That right there! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #57
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Hey! Toorich Sep 2017 #182
Common, if you are going to troll at least put some effort into it. LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #207
Yes, those silly minorities, always 'raising a ruckus' about bigotry. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #51
Hello... Behind the Aegis Sep 2017 #100
Oh I remember that well. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #101
That was particularly odious. demmiblue Sep 2017 #217
" It's not an indictment of atheists. " Iggo Sep 2017 #34
+1 beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #39
Yep. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #47
"It's not an indictment of atheists." Lordquinton Sep 2017 #110
No problem here. SCVDem Sep 2017 #40
Trouble is, the initial premise is FALSE. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #133
These anti-government conservatives are often hypocrites TDale313 Sep 2017 #7
Your 100% right...and on a much smaller scale Bengus81 Sep 2017 #8
My DH used to say about Barry Goldwater: marybourg Sep 2017 #13
The atheist trope is patently untrue and so is the idea that... Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #10
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Please change your OP title, it is a hateful, false, and bigoted stereotype. NT LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #21
No, I won't louis c Sep 2017 #107
Why not? LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #115
The anology is made to convince Right Wingers in a discussion louis c Sep 2017 #120
But this is not a right wing site LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #123
Bingo. If a racist trope was used to make a point would it be acceptable? beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #125
I agree. defacto7 Sep 2017 #142
My intenntion, in almost all of my posts louis c Sep 2017 #165
No worries, FWIW, I get you. A French philosopher once wrote: oasis Sep 2017 #168
Oh, ffs! smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #150
I know right? It's not hard to change an offense OP! Nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #152
Especially when you're wrong (NT) louis c Sep 2017 #169
wrong about what? Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #183
So, not at all then. Iggo Sep 2017 #23
Lots of believers lose their faith in war. I also enjoy the admittance that people require lindysalsagal Sep 2017 #30
Nope. Not too liberal for me at all. ancianita Sep 2017 #32
See why we can't get anything done? Your point about republican/libertarian hypocrisy... TreasonousBastard Sep 2017 #35
Could have been a win if it accused GOPers of making the stmt leftstreet Sep 2017 #38
Yes, he should change the first sentence Ligyron Sep 2017 #82
The analogy starts with an obvious untruth. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #50
But it is not stated as truth, merely an allusion leading to the truth. TreasonousBastard Sep 2017 #116
Oh please give me a ing break. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #127
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You're spendin a lot of time battling that analogy. How do you feel about the point of the post? TreasonousBastard Sep 2017 #117
I don't appreciate reasoning from a false premise, Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #135
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Logically speaking, there is no point of the post. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #180
Or we could listen and respond to criticism. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #98
We could also avoid being sidelined by irrelevant criticism. TreasonousBastard Sep 2017 #118
Exactly nini Sep 2017 #103
Thank you! smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #153
It boggles the mind really nini Sep 2017 #194
"when people were triggered into objecting to your allegory." Lordquinton Sep 2017 #111
Offensive? And you wonder why people call liberals "snowflakes"? A lot more time here was spent... TreasonousBastard Sep 2017 #119
Well, if a comment starts from offensive, not to mention untrue, Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #136
Everything LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #138
Thanks. That was my interpretation of some of the comments. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #139
Yep Sugarcoated Sep 2017 #137
You're the one calling liberals names Lordquinton Sep 2017 #143
This... Myrddin Sep 2017 #210
Very True. Snackshack Sep 2017 #42
Actually, there are nothing but atheists in foxholes. stopbush Sep 2017 #46
BAM! Hell yeah! trof Sep 2017 #62
I'm not sure who told you a belief in God grants physical invulnerability... linuxman Sep 2017 #109
Isaiah 54:17 stopbush Sep 2017 #191
The day I meet actually meet an old testament adhering literalist, I'll let them know they can cross linuxman Sep 2017 #193
Kurt Vonnegut (another atheist in a foxhole) wrote in Hocus Pocus Lordquinton Sep 2017 #113
Aphorism. yallerdawg Sep 2017 #52
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Well, the aphorism in contention does not in fact state a general truth. Susan Calvin Sep 2017 #58
You seem really upset Lordquinton Sep 2017 #112
That's bullshit. Iggo Sep 2017 #181
"A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse." yallerdawg Sep 2017 #184
Okay, that's enough. Iggo Sep 2017 #202
The p.c. here kills me askyagerz Sep 2017 #64
Careful. kag Sep 2017 #80
Haha no worries I'm good at dodging rocks askyagerz Sep 2017 #88
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #154
Stuff like this is why Dems don't rule the world askyagerz Sep 2017 #198
Wow. It's too bad that your excellent point is being lost on people who... kag Sep 2017 #65
triggered? Its a shitty analogy- and not true. Like attributing that "Definition of Insanity" quote Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #68
"Hey, Bartender." betsuni Sep 2017 #176
Inferring that someone is posting drunk? Lars39 Sep 2017 #209
What excellent points? Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #70
Holy crap--I was wondering what was going on with this thread. ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #75
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I do and I'm sure his family does as well. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #83
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Hey at least we're not the most hated religious minority in America anymore. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #87
You don't think you're over-reacting a teensy little bit? ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #102
Food for thought. Behind the Aegis Sep 2017 #104
I think that's the part that caused me to reply in the first place ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #105
With a church on every corner here in a red state, Lars39 Sep 2017 #108
Appreciate your post, especially the proper usage defacto7 Sep 2017 #141
Vehement responses? You mean to the OP? Mariana Sep 2017 #190
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Me too. I've been called 'damaged' and a 'militant' feminist before. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #151
Lord in heaven WD ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #172
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You are, of course, on the right side of this argument. pablo_marmol Sep 2017 #196
Your messaging is off, but your sentiment is right on Nevernose Sep 2017 #78
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For what it's worth WD shadowmayor Sep 2017 #199
I appreciate your rather more measured response here... kag Sep 2017 #86
Lesson: An analogy can distract from your point if the veracity of your analogy is controversial. Towlie Sep 2017 #92
75 Recs at 9:35 PM 9-3-17 louis c Sep 2017 #106
Some people rec the argument. It's not always the OP defacto7 Sep 2017 #126
That's your opinion louis c Sep 2017 #164
So if lots of people agree with you, then its ok to say something that offends people? Kentonio Sep 2017 #174
Nearly everything that is debated by anyone, offends someone louis c Sep 2017 #185
I wasn't going to post in this thread.. Kentonio Sep 2017 #197
Maybe it wasn't intentional. Mariana Sep 2017 #215
It's a time worn statement louis c Sep 2017 #247
My dad became an atheist during wwII. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #95
OP was turning a (fake) cliche on on its ear. VOX Sep 2017 #140
Thanks louis c Sep 2017 #162
uh no the op did no such thing. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #173
111 Recs louis c Sep 2017 #186
So are you now claiming that your point was that "no atheists in foxholes" is false? Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #187
I'm sure there are atheists in fox holes louis c Sep 2017 #195
So if I understand your latest explanation Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #212
To those who believe the statements. louis c Sep 2017 #214
You don't convince but you do spend most of your time defacto7 Sep 2017 #257
Most of the negative replies are from the same people louis c Sep 2017 #260
Well I'll hand you this.... defacto7 Sep 2017 #267
No. louis c Sep 2017 #268
That ought to be a bumper sticker! Nt raccoon Sep 2017 #166
as a non-believer I had to LOL at this thread. KG Sep 2017 #167
It's not what the OP intended... but it's COMEDY GOLD!! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #171
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LOL ... Yeah right. Sure. Whatever. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #243
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LOL NurseJackie Sep 2017 #250
Bam! yallerdawg Sep 2017 #177
This "conversation" over atheists in a fox hole... LakeArenal Sep 2017 #188
If you want a conversation about repukes being hypocrites... LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #208
Oh geez.... LakeArenal Sep 2017 #213
Your point is excellent and I agree with it lunatica Sep 2017 #189
Sometimes it feels like. . . ariadne0614 Sep 2017 #192
"Everyone's a Socialist during a natural disaster". orleans Sep 2017 #200
Neither statement is true, Progressive dog Sep 2017 #203
I've been in foxholes. I don't recollect any conversations about religion or spirituality. TrogL Sep 2017 #205
To be honest this is the first time liquid diamond Sep 2017 #206
+++++++++++.... JHan Sep 2017 #219
It's selfishness Renew Deal Sep 2017 #211
It's not even a "liberal" concept. It's common sense and essential to the survival of our species. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2017 #221
I guess this atheist will have to fight the republicans without you. Iggo Sep 2017 #225
As Raphael Cruz shows, Texans are fiercely independent, with their begging hand out. They want othe keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #226
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using an insult to make a point is probably not a good idea; find a better way. nt TheFrenchRazor Sep 2017 #246
thanks for your advice louis c Sep 2017 #248
Did you really rec your own OP? defacto7 Sep 2017 #258
I always do louis c Sep 2017 #270
What is your proof there are no Athiests in foxholes? yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2017 #271
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