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In reply to the discussion: OK, I have been extremely mean to Lindsey Graham over the years [View all]The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,947 posts)22. Of course it's not an identical situation, and I know there was a lot of opposition
at the time. Lincoln justified it under his wartime powers and was aware it might be challenged in the courts, but the ratification of the 13th Amendment took care of the controversy, and hardly anybody complains about the Emancipation Proclamation any more (except for the usual suspects). My point was just that EOs have been used many times to accomplish things Congress didn't or wouldn't do; they are valid as long as they are constitutional. Some, such as Truman's nationalization of the steel mills during a strike, have been overturned as a violation of the separation of powers principle. There are a lot of gray areas.
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That's like saying I should grow another foot and become an NBA center. NT
Bleacher Creature
Sep 2017
#8
Me, too. I don't agree that Obama overstepped when creating DACA in the first place.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Sep 2017
#2
Of course it's not an identical situation, and I know there was a lot of opposition
The Velveteen Ocelot
Sep 2017
#22
I suspect his motivations have more to do with losing Hispanic support than actually concern about
still_one
Sep 2017
#3
I can't believe that anyone falls for his shuck, he will vote party line ALWAYS to be re-elected in
FreeStateDemocrat
Sep 2017
#13
You weren't listening closely. Graham tied DACA legislation to wall funding. A non-starter.
Trust Buster
Sep 2017
#16
It is possible the house and senate could resolve this and make it even better
Eliot Rosewater
Sep 2017
#26