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mcar

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Mon Sep 11, 2017, 09:53 PM Sep 2017

Vogue: No, Hillary Clinton, the First Woman to Win a Major-Party Presidential Nomination, [View all]

No, Hillary Clinton, the First Woman to Win a Major-Party Presidential Nomination, Does Not Need to Shut Up About It

https://www.vogue.com/article/hillary-clinton-what-happened-doesnt-have-to-shut-up/amp


...There’s some truth to at least one facet of this new Clinton backlash: For many people, these are indeed dark times and the Democratic party does need to get its act together and focus on resisting and defeating Trump. But for the most part, the criticism of Clinton’s book is just more sexist drivel from the never-ending well of misogyny and sexism that’s been being hurled in her direction during her long career of public service. Hillary Clinton doesn’t have to go out “gently”—or be otherwise schooled on how she should or should not handle her particular, unprecedented situation. She’s the first woman to win a major party’s presidential nomination in American history; she definitely doesn’t have to shut up about it, not now, not ever.

The attempts to silence Clinton are in fact just more proof that the misogyny she writes about in What Happened was not imagined, and is still working against her. There has been an avalanche of hot takes and postmortems about the 2016 election—true story: there are still Fox News segments about Clinton’s emails, not to mention the president still tweets about “Crooked Hillary.” But the one analysis that at least some segment of the public, including members of Clinton’s own party, don’t want to hear is that of the person who could practically feel Trump’s breath on her neck on the debate stage? I know the news cycle moves pretty fast, but even 10 months later, it’s insane to suggest that Clinton’s assessment of what happened is extraneous; technically, it’s everyone else’s that is. And yet, gallingly, critics still manage to deem her somehow unqualified to share the ultimate behind-the-scenes view of how this dumpster fire went down, as if there is some better person to process it all....

Curiously, the impulse to banish Clinton has not applied to male presidential runners-up, as noted in The New Yorker’s hilarious satirical essay “It’s Time for Hillary Clinton to Gracefully Bow Out of Public Life, Taking All Other Women With Her.” Writes Daniel Kibblesmith: “No recent failed presidential candidate has ever had such a prominent public role post-election, with the possible exceptions of Al Gore, who produced and starred in an Oscar-winning documentary; Senator John McCain, who is a constant television presence; and Mitt Romney, who—you gotta admit—seemed like a pretty good dude in that Netflix movie.”

The dismissal of Clinton’s book is sadly not dissimilar from the way Senators Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris have recently been all but shushed in Congress. There’s something about a powerful woman using her voice—and in a way that is not gentle or measured but bold and pointed—that still doesn’t sit well with the general public. (See: Clinton openly threatened with cries of “lock her up” to this day at Trump rallies; being called a “nasty woman.”) In spite of her achievements—and likely because of them—Clinton has always been seen, as then-candidate Barack Obama quipped in 2008, as just “likable enough.” During the 2016 campaign (and long before), she was lambasted for being rehearsed and robotic—a policy wonk, lacking in natural charisma. (By the way—what we wouldn’t give for a policy wonk in the White House today . . .) But now that she’s speaking freely and frankly, the sexist little secret is being laid bare: People didn’t want Clinton to change her manner of speech; they wanted her to stop talking altogether. Consider that while people want Clinton to be quiet, noted white nationalist political mastermind Steve Bannon got the mainstream sit-down treatment on 60 Minutes last night. Or that on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert last week, Sanders all but belittled Clinton’s book as “silly,” a statement that felt like the equivalent of a husband calling his wife “hysterical.”

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K&R musette_sf Sep 2017 #1
K&R. TexasTowelie Sep 2017 #2
I'm sensing a shift in the narrative and lapucelle Sep 2017 #3
"Chicken Soup for the Pre-Pubescent Revolutionary Soul" George II Sep 2017 #14
This post is brilliant! murielm99 Sep 2017 #27
+1 betsuni Sep 2017 #38
This is a great post. Maven Sep 2017 #40
Excellent post! R B Garr Sep 2017 #45
LOL!!! (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #54
+++++++++ MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #68
Great post! mcar Sep 2017 #73
Love the title wryter2000 Sep 2017 #80
I can't remember it offhand, but lapucelle Sep 2017 #89
But that awesome, miraculous hair... ehrnst Sep 2017 #87
Kick! Squinch Sep 2017 #4
Sexism is thriving in the good 'old USA! BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #5
Well put. Alice11111 Sep 2017 #33
So true. llmart Sep 2017 #56
I'm much younger than Hillary, but even I am shocked by how many 20-somethings I see in my smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #58
Studies have suggested women don't see it as bad early in their careers as there is a veneer of bettyellen Sep 2017 #78
I make it a point to tell them... llmart Sep 2017 #86
Sadly sexism thrives in Democratic campaign offices too crazycatlady Sep 2017 #60
Are you a campaign staffer or do you work for the party itself? lapucelle Sep 2017 #88
Campaign staffer crazycatlady Sep 2017 #90
Terrible and inexcusable. lapucelle Sep 2017 #98
I hope that giving notice sent a message crazycatlady Sep 2017 #100
Indeed She Doesn't Me. Sep 2017 #6
Damn fucking right she doesn't. calimary Sep 2017 #92
I'll SEcond That Me. Sep 2017 #97
Oh FFS leftstreet Sep 2017 #7
Thank you for proving the article's point n/t kcr Sep 2017 #8
The article can't prove it's own point n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #11
No, done....and done. George II Sep 2017 #17
So true lol 4now Sep 2017 #13
So to disagree with something proves it's right melman Sep 2017 #49
And then you have "All In with Chris Hayes". George II Sep 2017 #15
the attempts to gaslight are getting tiresome JHan Sep 2017 #18
+10000 for Wonkette! Hekate Sep 2017 #22
Always! They're too fabulous :) JHan Sep 2017 #23
Well done. Alice11111 Sep 2017 #35
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2017 #64
+1 jalan48 Sep 2017 #19
How very special of you to prove the point Hekate Sep 2017 #21
The people who are trying to silence her are murielm99 Sep 2017 #28
She wasn't my first choice, mountain grammy Sep 2017 #34
I know of one who hasn't been asked that yet, unless I missed it. George II Sep 2017 #75
my point is, NO man is ever asked that, what's yours? mountain grammy Sep 2017 #76
I'm guessing all candidates who lose elections are asked that question or some form of it. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2017 #101
Agreed melman Sep 2017 #48
A most wonderful and accurate example of irony. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #63
Haters gonna hate. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #69
The article makes Hillary look weak. She's not leftstreet Sep 2017 #85
TY KNR Lucinda Sep 2017 #9
Oh, yes. All true. BainsBane Sep 2017 #10
I hope to see articles like this every single morning Control-Z Sep 2017 #12
Unfortunately we can't name "every last asshole" now, can we? George II Sep 2017 #16
So many *holes, so little time Hekate Sep 2017 #25
... George II Sep 2017 #30
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #53
Go, Vogue! (n/t) forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #20
I have developed such a respect for Vogue magazine! Hekate Sep 2017 #24
This might help make up for the damn Kim & Kanye cover, over which I canceled my subscription. calimary Sep 2017 #91
I'm sick of HRC bashing - Some never tire benld74 Sep 2017 #26
Me too mcar Sep 2017 #74
I have said it before but I will say it again, nycbos Sep 2017 #29
that statement should be in the back cover of her book mdbl Sep 2017 #51
The first woman to win the popular vote for President of the United States. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #31
That's an awesome piece of satire ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #71
Some here think she should have waited 8 to 12 YEARS! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #32
Take a number. calimary Sep 2017 #93
K&R DesertRat Sep 2017 #36
K&R... spanone Sep 2017 #37
K&R betsuni Sep 2017 #39
Yes indeed!! Sparkly Sep 2017 #41
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #42
Because she wants to make money from her book doesn't mean there was no misogyny involved in haveahart Sep 2017 #43
This sounds familiar, too, though. Have you gotten R B Garr Sep 2017 #44
You guarantee? How can your guarantee delisen Sep 2017 #46
That's an old silly one, Hillary does everything only for money? betsuni Sep 2017 #47
Lord, You'd think she was hawking her book in churches, or something... (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #52
Because men never do anything for money. smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #57
no she's not complete-- she needs a tower in Manhattan named after her crazycatlady Sep 2017 #61
K&Rec ehrnst Sep 2017 #50
I'm going to buy the audio version... Trueblue Texan Sep 2017 #55
Welcome to DU, Trueblue Texan! calimary Sep 2017 #94
The First Woman to Win a Major-Party Presidential Nomination, Does Not Need to Shut Up About It Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #59
heck yea onetexan Sep 2017 #62
K&R, X-1000. Paladin Sep 2017 #65
'Cold and robotic' -no The Mouth Sep 2017 #66
Double K&R MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #67
No shit ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #70
of course she does. They'll whine and cry until she shuts up librechik Sep 2017 #72
so very true: niyad Sep 2017 #77
K AND R niyad Sep 2017 #79
Hillary's resiliency is ineffable. She is the personification of toughness. Native Sep 2017 #81
I'm in awe of her too, Native mcar Sep 2017 #96
"what we wouldnt give for a policy wonk in the White House today" NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #82
And then Bill said something about the country getting "two for one," innocently maddiemom Sep 2017 #84
K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #83
K&R Starry Messenger Sep 2017 #95
I Agree StarzGuy Sep 2017 #99
I'll be buying her book Cary Sep 2017 #102
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