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bvar22

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51. Reasons WHY we moved to the Ouachita Mountains of Arkansas for early retirement:
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:04 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Tue Jul 17, 2012, 06:38 PM - Edit history (1)

*Inexpensive, pristine, fertile land
Hilltop locations with views readily available and inexpensive to buy ($2000/acre)

*Abundant clean water,
On Property springs not difficult to find
The water most people buy in plastic bottles bubbles up out of the ground in our back yard.
We drink straight from the spring.
It is cold & clear, and tastes wonderful.

*Surrounded by extensive hardwood National Forest and protected Wilderness
Abundant wild game, fish, and unspoiled natural beauty

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*low, LOW, LOW property taxes
(8 acres with house less than $300/year)

*Low Cost of Living in general

*Low Winter energy overhead
We heat with a wood stove,
burn Oak and Hickory which we cut, haul, and split ourselves.
Total Heating cost last Winter about $50

*LONG Growing Season
We produce about 1/2 our food, and could do more if need be.
We have never eaten better or healthier in our lives.
Two crops/year possible for some veggies

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*Long way from Industrial/Agricultural/Urban/SubUrban pollution
Fish caught in local rivers are not hazardous to your health.
Our HoneyBees are happy here with no CCD.

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All the Coal Mine Canaries still thriving here
Plenty of healthy frogs, butterflies, hummingbirds, lightening bugs, worms, ...
AND, you can see the stars at night!

*No Zoning, HOAs, Inspections, or Building Permits
If we want to build something, we build it.

There are some downsides.
Mid-Summer Heat & Humidity are tough.
Poverty & Ignorance are a problem,
but that is improving.
Thanks to Sat TV and the Internet, all the kids are connected.
More "organic" and "sustainable" people are moving into the area every day looking for the things we found here.


But Shhh!
Keep it quiet.
We don't want the Yuppies moving in and ruining it.




---bvar22 & Starkraven
Living Well in the Arkansas woods
on a low "taxable" income,
and stuff we learned inn the '60s








And mostly god-fearing places too. I guess god doesn't care much for retirees. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #1
Here in Tennessee it feels like there is literally a church on every corner. white_wolf Jul 2012 #3
They just built a church here, KS, so big I bet it's a rival to the RKP5637 Jul 2012 #5
Same here in North Georgia, just northwest of Atlanta. n/t RebelOne Jul 2012 #23
In SC there is too. nt raccoon Jul 2012 #42
I am retired in Milwaukee. mysuzuki2 Jul 2012 #50
well, you know, "opiate of the masses" phantom power Jul 2012 #27
I love your sig line!!! So true!!! "But these are times of madness, dressed RKP5637 Jul 2012 #30
IMO more churches = less desirable nt msongs Jul 2012 #2
More sinners need more churches, I guess. nt DocMac Jul 2012 #13
With all that prayer going on, one would think these would be really good times! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #31
Personally, I prefer more strip clubs and package stores near schools. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #49
Guess it depends on what your looking at. Most of those states are sinkingfeeling Jul 2012 #4
The stats the list I cited used to measure were: white_wolf Jul 2012 #6
I recently tried to find a cheaper place to live state/city. It was an RKP5637 Jul 2012 #10
Yeah, I'm betting you didn't have too much luck. white_wolf Jul 2012 #12
Vermont is a beautiful place to live, I've been there a number of times over RKP5637 Jul 2012 #14
What was the best spot you saw? tia uponit7771 Jul 2012 #39
Montpelier was the area I was mostly in ... I recall well just getting there RKP5637 Jul 2012 #44
I'm In Vermont (Not Retired, Yet) Tace Jul 2012 #35
Misleading. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2012 #67
Don't let that fool you -- I lived in AL on a rural route near a VERY small town -- we got burgled Nay Jul 2012 #78
A good loud dog and a shotgun. I hear ya.Works a treat most of the time. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2012 #79
Here are the "10 Best" from AARP KansDem Jul 2012 #7
Because they're pretty? Neoma Jul 2012 #11
And none of them are liberal, some cities are, but it seems so often the RKP5637 Jul 2012 #15
Somebody didn't think things through very well Warpy Jul 2012 #19
Yes, FL has A/C... but heating costs are almost zero. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #33
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2012 #40
TN here Tsiyu Jul 2012 #34
+1 Go Vols Jul 2012 #72
A vastly cheaper housing market 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #55
Retirees are cantankerous? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #54
AARP had the war criminal Bush on their cover so AARP is full of lying whores just1voice Jul 2012 #66
Tennessee is top state to retire in Go Vols Jul 2012 #8
According to the list I cited, Tennessee has the following: white_wolf Jul 2012 #9
No offense meant to anyone, but these states I wouldn't even want to RKP5637 Jul 2012 #16
I live in TN, I want to drive out of it and never come back, but that's it. white_wolf Jul 2012 #17
NYC is a cool place. I grew up not too far from NYC and also used to RKP5637 Jul 2012 #22
Is there a state that is socially liberal and pro business? FarCenter Jul 2012 #18
Only in my mind. I've longed for something like that, but I sure never RKP5637 Jul 2012 #28
got all of those except low taxes KurtNYC Jul 2012 #48
New Hampshire fits that bill. LAGC Jul 2012 #52
I have relatives in Boston, and NH seems definitely a possibility FarCenter Jul 2012 #62
Switzerland nichomachus Jul 2012 #57
Oregon?? NMDemDist2 Jul 2012 #60
Would Oregon be more pro-business than Washington FarCenter Jul 2012 #61
.... NMDemDist2 Jul 2012 #64
But there's no sales tax in Oregon. wickerwoman Jul 2012 #75
74.8 % of all statistics deaniac21 Jul 2012 #20
The link I posted gives the sources for the stats cited. n/t white_wolf Jul 2012 #21
Please reference reply #20 deaniac21 Jul 2012 #24
Oh yeah, where did you get that stat? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #56
I made it up on the spot. Are you slow to catch on? deaniac21 Jul 2012 #69
I was joking . . . 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #70
I think I was drunk........... deaniac21 Jul 2012 #81
I live in Georgia and I love it. RebelOne Jul 2012 #25
annotated rant.... frankroberts Jul 2012 #26
That made me laugh. Great rant n/t. white_wolf Jul 2012 #29
Very juvenile. cordelia Jul 2012 #63
what? frankroberts Jul 2012 #71
I don't give a fuck about the language. cordelia Jul 2012 #74
oh frankroberts Jul 2012 #80
This is absurd. Low life expectancy doesn't mean if you move there you'll die. nolabear Jul 2012 #32
I like Kentucky, but I already live in Pennsyltucky so it wouldn't be much of a change. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #36
now I wonder how NM got itself in that rogues' gallery? mitchtv Jul 2012 #37
Another way choose SDjack Jul 2012 #38
South Dakota taxes food and there are local sales taxes. libinnyandia Jul 2012 #53
I was reading recently that Oklahoma was one of the best madokie Jul 2012 #41
No place on that list I'd want to retire to. GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #43
Another reason the south is popular for retirees... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #45
In the South, I spend half of the year indoors during the summer! amandabeech Jul 2012 #73
Here in south central Montana with the climate change the sorefeet Jul 2012 #46
stop attacking the South, don't confuse me with facts and statistics! quinnox Jul 2012 #47
So, tell me all about the quality of life of Philidelphia in February? SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #58
Reasons WHY we moved to the Ouachita Mountains of Arkansas for early retirement: bvar22 Jul 2012 #51
Beautiful place. Enjoy! virgogal Jul 2012 #59
Ouchita Mountains EffieH Mar 2013 #82
Hi. bvar22 Mar 2013 #83
South Carolina? Somebody needs to... GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #65
I love Los Angeles We are Devo Jul 2012 #68
I been to them all riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #76
So much about what makes a state or locality desirable is in the eye of the beholder. SheilaT Jul 2012 #77
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