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In reply to the discussion: Bernie speaking on 1st day at Women's conference is a horrible idea & it's easy to show why... [View all]Me.
(35,454 posts)69. Thanks For Fighting A Good Fight
At this point it will be wait and see. They could've put together a righteous gathering and that doesn't seem likely. The backlash has been tremendous. Ultimately, the proof will be in the pudding. If it is an event aimed at empowering women or an effort to support a 2020 presidential run, it will be evident pdq and if it's the latter they will have betrayed women beyond measure and won't get another bite of the apple.
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Bernie speaking on 1st day at Women's conference is a horrible idea & it's easy to show why... [View all]
stevenleser
Oct 2017
OP
That's your answer? It's a conference about women. The organizers don't own that. nt
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#2
When it is about a diversity group? The members of that diversity group. nt
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#16
The organizers of the Women's March weren't mostly WOC. Why do you say "apparently" this group is?
pnwmom
Oct 2017
#136
There were 4 organizers, including two white women, one Latina, and an African American. n/t
pnwmom
Oct 2017
#239
Have to agree with you there... they must've had good reasons for inviting Bernie to speak.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#33
They really didn't. Everything you see that they have come out with on this says the opposite.
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#37
I can understand there being some people who were not in favor of hearing from Bernie...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2017
#42
Meanwhile, this decision has brought a lot more attention to their event.
thesquanderer
Oct 2017
#108
Or not. A lot of women seem to be asking for their $300 back. Seems they think their issues
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#109
does the 300 dollars include a Hotel , travel and whatever costs of getting there ?
JI7
Oct 2017
#116
No, I was going for the day...you can buy day tickets. But I won't go now. To have Sen. Sanders
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#159
You might want to check out the comments of some of those other "honored" speakers
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#273
Wow..not going. I am incensed at how this was done...they deliberately waited until you couldn't get
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#275
Nope, Bernie will be the one mansplaining, and the conference organizers enabled it. nt
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#17
They actually do share my opinion and knew the choice was a controversial one
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#35
No, I don't think YOU understand. They knew these opinions existed among women when they made the
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#40
It was a very bad decision. And I have to wonder if it is about selling tickets...at $300.00 a pop
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#163
This flailing really does not become any of you trying to support this decision.
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#226
I did it intentionally and no it wasn't "flailing" as you inaccurately put it.
mythology
Oct 2017
#270
I had intended to go up for the day...but I let my hotel go because I want nothing to do with this.
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#161
"that the rise of the woman IS the rise of the nation." How do you get that it "Is NOT a conference
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#213
Yes it is. The percentage of female speakers addressing the conference highlights female leadership
Tom Rinaldo
Oct 2017
#238
truly embarrassing to see them try to insulate themselves from criticism that way.
bettyellen
Oct 2017
#96
And embarrassing to see some DUers who have never been interested in any diversity issues
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#224
There are people who twist things for political "gain" and I think they lose in the end....
bettyellen
Oct 2017
#267
It's a good opportunity for him to lay out how women's' issues fit into his worldview
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#209
And I am sure you are going to tell us all how reciting that obvious factoid
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#125
Not "the conference." The majority of the handful of organizers of the conference. n/t
pnwmom
Oct 2017
#53
And the women who made the conference possible resoundingly shouted their disagreement
Ninsianna
Oct 2017
#89
Is he the headline speaker? If so, IMO, he probably needs to bow out. He's too much...
brush
Oct 2017
#84
You mean people who actually get off their ass and organize a convention should have some say?
Hassin Bin Sober
Oct 2017
#10
They can organize it but I don't have to go...and no more donations from me either.
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#164
Why those hysterical females...they overreacted...I am sure some manspainin
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#259
And here is Tamika Mallory in her own words acknowledging her choice was controversial
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#36
That's why you don't understand. Ask a member of a diversity group about the situations
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#78
I'm AA and definitely not a Bernie fan. But I understand why Tamika chose Bernie as one of the
underthematrix
Oct 2017
#262
If the conference organizers invited him, and if the conference organizers are women,
guillaumeb
Oct 2017
#8
Still no good responses, because there aren't any. He's not a women's advocate at all.
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#22
In other words, you really don't care what the thoughts are of the women who organized the
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#52
Yes, I am pisssed that Sen. Sanders was chosen given his comments on identity politics and
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#167
so you are basically saying Bernie has not done much on issues important to women
Takket
Oct 2017
#45
I stand corrected, there are 44 confirmed speakers on their website, 42 are women.
George II
Oct 2017
#72
As I said carry on. 2018 is going to be a challenge at this rate, indeed... nt
Purveyor
Oct 2017
#88
Do you believe a difference of opinion on an obscure website like DU will affect the 2018 election?
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#201
That is correct and many, including myself sometimes think a forum such as this matters
Purveyor
Oct 2017
#230
"Doing it for nothing". It is illegal for a sitting congressperson to be paid to speak.
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#215
Put down your violin. The women organizing the conference knew their choice was controversial
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#93
It's late. Get some sleep. Pick up bashing again tomorrow with a fresh start.
FailureToCommunicate
Oct 2017
#104
Op is either Bernie Bashing or an expression that conference organizers need supervision. /nt
philly_bob
Oct 2017
#118
Don't worry about Bernie, he's an experienced establishment politician, he can take criticism.
betsuni
Oct 2017
#120
IMHO - It is just more noise taking away from the disaster that is the Trump administration
OhioBlue
Oct 2017
#121
This seems to be part of the continued rationalization (or a sadistic doubling down)
coolsandy
Oct 2017
#126
Seriously...the endless repetition of the phrase "hasn't been a particular backer"
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#247
Trump WAS deliberately hovering over her and invading her personal space. That was a form
pnwmom
Oct 2017
#143
I don't. I am a woman. And while I respect all opinions. I won't go see a guy open a woman's
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#165
And yes some women and people of color had a problem with that. Not all by a long-shot, and I doubt
JCanete
Oct 2017
#171
That was almost 60 years ago...and his comments of late have been about emphasizing economic
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#168
Oh come on, among numerous speakers allies to these groups have no business speaking? They
JCanete
Oct 2017
#162
that is depressingly vague. Who doesn't. What's the attention you are getting that you object to?
JCanete
Oct 2017
#172
I don't care for Sen. Sanders. I am a Democrat, and he has said some things I wish he hadn't about
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#179
I wanted to go to a Woman's conference...not a political rally and it seems to me that this is what
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#260
I refuse to attend this conference because it is not a woman's conference which I signed up for...
Demsrule86
Oct 2017
#277
Nope, everyone can complain. Just not everyone should be a conference speaker. nt
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#210
I hadn't realized this was a fortieth anniversary event. That conference was heroic.
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#265
Nope, the conference organizers, who are women, all acknowledged the choice was controversial
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#211
Bingo! Your answer pretty much decimated this entire reason for this thread. nt
Quixote1818
Oct 2017
#278
It's not your place to lecture a women's group as to who they should invite to speak.
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#248
So basically they had a PR disaster on their hands after all the pushback they received
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#202
they said they announced the keynote as Waters weeks ago. Do you have an article or evidence you've
JCanete
Oct 2017
#231
Yeah, that's what they're saying now. But as of Sept 19th they still weren't confirming Maxine
pnwmom
Oct 2017
#232
but it's October 14th now, and the backlash started a couple days ago. when was she confirmed
JCanete
Oct 2017
#233
Yes. She didn't correct the reporter who used the word "headliner" to refer to Bernie,
pnwmom
Oct 2017
#240
Nope, the conference organizers, who are women, all acknowledged they knew the choice would be
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#227
They are simply validating the idea that not everyone would agree about their decision.
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#256
He shouldn't speak at the conference. But this shouldn't be another excuse to go after him.
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#237
Also they waited to tell them about this decision so many felt that was wrong too.
Madam45for2923
Oct 2017
#274
I'm happy that the organizers made the right decision and moved Bernie to a break out session
stevenleser
Oct 2017
#282