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calimary

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39. Such a great point!

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 06:09 PM

Nov 2017

"What's really important isn't what the man intended by his actions but how the woman perceived them."

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I have met Al Franken and have chatted [View all] MineralMan Nov 2017 OP

lucky you MFM008 Nov 2017 #1

Yes. Each of those times occurred at fundraisers. MineralMan Nov 2017 #3

Unfortunately that has nothing to do with predicting behavior ksoze Nov 2017 #2

Perhaps not. I don't know. I have not chatted with Roy Moore, so MineralMan Nov 2017 #4

Me too. gilpo Nov 2017 #5

Heart? pangaia Nov 2017 #29

That's where despair starts.... dawg day Nov 2017 #6

"Photographic evidence"? A goofy photo is evidence? oasis Nov 2017 #9

Exactly, someone really doing it would not have taken that goofy photo... n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #12

That kind of "evidence" would be laughed out of court. oasis Nov 2017 #13

"Up-photos" aren't groping either... and peeping tommery isn't raping... dawg day Nov 2017 #14

Yes I get it. Childish behavior:yes it is. nt oasis Nov 2017 #15

She was a Playboy model. Al acted like a goofy teenager. FakeNoose Nov 2017 #25

It's considered, actual "groping" in certain circles. oasis Nov 2017 #27

It makes no sense to believe Franken actually groped her.... ollie10 Nov 2017 #28

She was a playboy model? He was a goofy teen? dawg day Nov 2017 #34

That's not what I said nt FakeNoose Nov 2017 #40

Your version of the story somewhat confirms my suspicions Generic Other Nov 2017 #37

Was she introduced as such at this gig? If she was there as so many beautiful women calimary Nov 2017 #38

It is possible the woman is in on the gag and is not actually asleep at all. Nitram Nov 2017 #21

I agree, this was a prank. It was not grabbing a teen age girl in a car TNNurse Nov 2017 #26

The shadows on that photo make it appear to me that his hands are hovering, not actually touching pnwmom Nov 2017 #17

Give the photographer time to come forth....... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2017 #35

Also, I finally noticed there is a man to the right of them, who might know pnwmom Nov 2017 #36

I took a class w/ a football player embroiled in a rather public/national rape scandal. SaschaHM Nov 2017 #7

In his statement he accepted responsibility. More importantly, I think, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #8

Perceptions appear to be a primary thing in all of this. MineralMan Nov 2017 #10

This! peggysue2 Nov 2017 #11

Such a great point! calimary Nov 2017 #39

Sounds like you had some fun encounters. DesertRat Nov 2017 #16

Still feel this way? MichMary Nov 2017 #18

Yes, I do. Thanks for asking. MineralMan Nov 2017 #19

Does that mean MichMary Nov 2017 #23

Franken wrote in his recent biography that he had often made the mistake of crossing certain lines Nitram Nov 2017 #20

I watched her news conference. This is about more than a comedic gag. nt DesertRat Nov 2017 #22

According to her story. Let's see wht an investigation turns up. Nitram Nov 2017 #24

Neither Moore or Frankin would kiss you. rickford66 Nov 2017 #30

Perhaps. But, perhaps his open acceptance of responsibility and apology MineralMan Nov 2017 #31

I heard an interview with Al Franken once. Mr.Bill Nov 2017 #32

That story is in his latest book too. n/t progressoid Nov 2017 #33