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125. While we on DU engage in long drawn out hand-wringing, the GOP laughs and passes another bill

Fri Nov 24, 2017, 03:48 PM

Nov 2017

We are so predictable. And easy to corner. And silence.

"If he did not touch her and took a very crude picture why she was asleep, that's harassment and also extremely serious."

NO its not "extremely serious". Its taking a crude picture with her while she was asleep. In front of other people, and on a comedy tour where everyone was goofing around. It was rude, crass, with sexual overtones obviously. But my gawd, this is how they get us. All it takes is a few Democrats to jump down the rabbit hole and take the party down with them.

The Republicans have successfully conflated raping a 14 year old and other minors by a Republican, with a Democrat who "took a very crude picture while she was asleep". And in so doing devalue the stories of all the women that have actually been physically and mentally assaulted in an "extremely serious" way.

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A statement made today by Al Franken [View all] spooky3 Nov 2017 OP

I stand with Senator Franken MagickMuffin Nov 2017 #1

Absolutely trof Nov 2017 #9

+1 onetexan Nov 2017 #53

100% I believe in his basic goodness! chaking53 Nov 2017 #70

Senator Franken bdamomma Nov 2017 #2

Wish I could give him a hug Motley13 Nov 2017 #3

If I ever get to meet him, I'll ask for one. GoCubsGo Nov 2017 #4

Me too. We can slide him a tenner or 20 or what we can. mahina Nov 2017 #76

I stand with Senator Franken Ferrets are Cool Nov 2017 #5

Thanks, Al. Good enough for me. mountain grammy Nov 2017 #6

Fucking A Al...We are with you! BigmanPigman Nov 2017 #7

What they really want him to apologize for is exposing jeff sessions JI7 Nov 2017 #8

+1 BootinUp Nov 2017 #10

+2 Ligyron Nov 2017 #80

+ 3 VOX Nov 2017 #101

yep you nailed it nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #127

Appropriate and nice apology. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #11

That's reasonable njhoneybadger Nov 2017 #12

Good denial Nevernose Nov 2017 #13

He's actually NOT denying the groping allegations which, since he specifically denie the bathroom Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #26

The Fiend! Had he had a clean conscience as to the butt grabbing, he bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #29

It is a pretty standard canon of construction. Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #32

Sorry - get a fucking grip! dhol82 Nov 2017 #38

Sounds to me like you didn't actually read the accusations Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #39

Ok, let me add something Lithos Nov 2017 #62

A woman accused him of suggesting he accompany her to the bathroom. Demit Nov 2017 #68

Thats whats coming. ONE liar is going to taint many telling the truth. 7962 Nov 2017 #95

ALWAYS believing women and NEVER believing women are not the only choices we have. Demit Nov 2017 #110

You are being objective and fair. Something many on BOTH sides have a problem with. 7962 Nov 2017 #96

I predict that someone will come out..... ollie10 Nov 2017 #83

And how do you categorize these "crazy ass women"? Must they be only republican? 7962 Nov 2017 #94

In some worlds MFM008 Nov 2017 #51

I'm a woman. An older woman. A grandmother. Sophia4 Nov 2017 #57

As a hugger, you know SCVDem Nov 2017 #111

I try to get permission from someone before I hug. Sophia4 Nov 2017 #116

I knew that someone would somehow twist an admission out of this. kcr Nov 2017 #61

Stop trying to discredit his accusers? ollie10 Nov 2017 #82

he is not"denying" the touchs because he is trying to walk the fine line between questionseverything Nov 2017 #97

Exactly LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #122

He said, "I crossed the line." Ms. Toad Nov 2017 #135

you are being dishonest pretending he has admitted "butt grabbing" questionseverything Nov 2017 #136

AMEN TO THAT! Unca Jim Nov 2017 #99

Yup. See above. n/t Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #28

Read it again DownriverDem Nov 2017 #49

Its a total denial Nevernose Nov 2017 #60

You forgot that he's disgusted with himself FBaggins Nov 2017 #66

Stand tall Al! BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #14

Works for me n/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #15

Frankens Apology Bill D Nov 2017 #16

k&r BootinUp Nov 2017 #17

I stand with Franken. PatrickforO Nov 2017 #18

I stand with Al ChubbyStar Nov 2017 #19

Good statement, but(t)... moriah Nov 2017 #20

I think the guy who asked permission is a Democrat as well dsc Nov 2017 #85

He was Republican Bradical79 Nov 2017 #112

Some one who knows how to apologize and say I'm sorry. Quite the opposite of the WH occupant iluvtennis Nov 2017 #21

K & R ... obnoxiousdrunk Nov 2017 #22

Rule of thumb: always ask first. ananda Nov 2017 #23

...Ecto Gammat Ellipsis Nov 2017 #43

Ecto Gammat! FailureToCommunicate Nov 2017 #131

He is handling this as well as it could be handled underpants Nov 2017 #24

i'm here bluestarone Nov 2017 #25

That's much the same approach as in his first statement. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #27

If I ever have the honor Polly Hennessey Nov 2017 #30

Make sure first Madam Mossfern Nov 2017 #67

He is handling this quite well mcar Nov 2017 #31

Excellent statement and we stand with you and behind you foursquare. democratisphere Nov 2017 #33

I Stand with Senator Franken Leith Nov 2017 #34

Al Franken The true Man mozan Nov 2017 #35

I don't think... Mike Nelson Nov 2017 #36

Youre my man, Al! Support you all the way. Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #37

Randi Rhodes recently adressed this on her show as she worked at Air America for yrs with Al womanofthehills Nov 2017 #40

Pre-emptive strike accomplished! rocktivity Nov 2017 #41

I don't understand. syringis Nov 2017 #42

He's stepping on the grenade to be an example. moriah Nov 2017 #52

A class act, Al Franken ghostsinthemachine Nov 2017 #44

I think he does. Susan Calvin Nov 2017 #46

Well, I've been the number one Franken for Pres ghostsinthemachine Nov 2017 #65

I wouldn't want to run for elected office at all. Susan Calvin Nov 2017 #92

People likely said the same thing about Obama. spooky3 Nov 2017 #47

Perfect. Susan Calvin Nov 2017 #45

For those who feel this statement doesn't go far enough or doesn't deny significant aspects, Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #48

As I said... moriah Nov 2017 #58

Yes, thanks, I saw that, moriah. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #59

More importantly, he ain't about to resign over this shit. oasis Nov 2017 #50

They'll take away my Senator when they pry him from my cold dead The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #54

LOL!!! spooky3 Nov 2017 #56

!!!!!! MFM008 Nov 2017 #77

Or thoroughly motivated by the RW. cwydro Nov 2017 #79

Perfect Response! n/t OhZone Nov 2017 #55

I'm a hugger/toucher too nini Nov 2017 #63

Perfect riverwalker Nov 2017 #64

Al Franken is a true mensch. Nitram Nov 2017 #69

I love this man! (He is so gracious) Maraya1969 Nov 2017 #71

I stand with Al zentrum Nov 2017 #72

Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief needs to resign. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2017 #73

I'm never touching a woman again.... SergeStorms Nov 2017 #74

Senator Franken: DON'T QUIT! Non Illigetamus Carborundum. Ever. Hekate Nov 2017 #75

amen and hallelujah nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #128

I suspect pressbox69 Nov 2017 #78

No victim blaming, no FAKE NEWS! Soxfan58 Nov 2017 #81

It beats the shit out of Trump's "statements" orangecrush Nov 2017 #84

So now what, are NFL players that pat each other on the butt Motley13 Nov 2017 #86

spooky3 marieo1 Nov 2017 #87

THIS statement should be made by Al Franken L. Coyote Nov 2017 #88

I like it! spooky3 Nov 2017 #93

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #89

Great statement. I stand with Franken...all here who is allowing the GOP to use Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #90

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2017 #91

I'm with Al left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #98

I stand with Franken, obviously, to do otherwise is to fall for a right wing smear flamingdem Nov 2017 #100

How I feel about this..... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2017 #102

The reporting mrdkitch Nov 2017 #103

While we on DU engage in long drawn out hand-wringing, the GOP laughs and passes another bill LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #125

"I feel terribly that Ive made some women feel badly and for that I am so sorry" GatoGordo Nov 2017 #104

No, re-phrasing someone's words is not an honest thing to do. Demit Nov 2017 #113

No, what is dishonest is the double standard on this forum GatoGordo Nov 2017 #117

I asked a specific question about the bathroom accusation. You didn't answer it. Demit Nov 2017 #118

Was YES, I AUTOMATICALLY DO evasive? GatoGordo Nov 2017 #119

The behavior I find hard--impossible--to believe happened is the bathroom invitation. Demit Nov 2017 #123

He's been tone perfect in all his replies. LAS14 Nov 2017 #105

he has indeed nt steve2470 Nov 2017 #129

The accusations were not about "warm hugs" oberliner Nov 2017 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author GatoGordo Nov 2017 #109

Why don't we put the women under oath and ask them? Demit Nov 2017 #114

In regard to this statement that Franken has put out, is he denying or apologizing? oberliner Nov 2017 #115

You keep speculating about Franken, and you keep insisting that we speculate too. Demit Nov 2017 #120

Senator is a man who speaks directly. MineralMan Nov 2017 #124

Al, you always had my trust. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #107

Okay... Skid Rogue Nov 2017 #108

Let's remember: Democratic sex "scandals" sourced/fueled by Kremlin / alt-right american_ideals Nov 2017 #121

Franken is a hugger and needs to be more attuned to those who aren't. MrModerate Nov 2017 #126

This apology bleedinglib Nov 2017 #130

This is true DeminPennswoods Nov 2017 #132

K&R red dog 1 Nov 2017 #133

I totally stand with Al! denvine Nov 2017 #134