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freshstart

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43. I don't see it that way.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:25 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:02 PM - Edit history (5)

I think Ron Paul and his cult of followers are dangerous, period. These are the people that pushed the conversation further right. And, they'll continue to do so. In the 70s their goal was to take over both parties. I've got to dig a bit for that article.

"The new conservative group is non-partisan. Its goal is to muster up support for the conservative politicians in both parties and possibly mount an independent conservative candidate in 1976."
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=btJOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=LAIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7324,2668089&dq=conservative+caucus+take+over+both+parties&hl=en

"When the Democratic Party has twice as much support as the Republicans, they should receive 50% of our resources Viguerie says. We don't have to move millions of voters into the Democratic Party, they're already there."
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=iXMjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=P2cEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6851,5004978&dq=conservative+caucus+take+over+both+parties&hl=en

I have the full article on this..but I don't think I can post it because it is a pdf. http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30910FC3C5F137B93C1A81789D95F428785F9

Richard Viguerie, Howard Phillips and Ron Paul have been tied since the 1970s...and this is what they were after. I don't think they've changed much since then either. I don't take my eyes off what the kook is doing, because they've got a method to their madness and what they are up to isn't good.

The Koch brothers and their ilk should concern everyone interested in democracy. Ron Paul ties to them in many ways. "The donors, like regulars Foster Friess and Rich DeVos." http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77453_Page3.html#ixzz1yBT55vLs

The same Richard DeVos and his wife Betsy that funded Citizens United, which Ron Paul was a plaintiff on the side of.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/citizens-united-fec-return-corporate-influence-peddling/story?id=9545153

The same Betsy DeVos that is involved with undermining public education. This is her group and if you click on "policy leaders" you'll see Ron Paul is there as is Howard Phillips. http://www.schoolandstate.org/proclamation.htm

And, Ron Paul's Superpac is located in Utah and was founded by Ladd Christensen, a person who gave big $$ to Romney and who is Jon Huntsman's business partner. Think they don't play together at your own risk.

The b.s. about Ron Paul being a victim of the GOP is the same b.s. they floated about Sarah Palin and Palin had a majority of Bush people on her team. It is an effort to gain sympathy.

Oh, pardon me, I thought this thread was about bathroom stalls. My bad. freshwest Jun 2012 #1
I've seen other articles like this indicating that Paul supporters are trying to ratfuck the RNC... D23MIURG23 Jun 2012 #2
Please, Mr. Paul ... please push the GOP further and further to zbdent Jun 2012 #3
I don't see how they could go much further.... Kalidurga Jun 2012 #4
The Dominionist camp is quite open about wanting to bring back stonings. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #5
Look into Christian Reconstructism UglyGreed Jun 2012 #45
Dominionists = Christian Reconstructionists. They are the folks who see The Handmaid's Tale kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #49
Yep.... freshstart Jun 2012 #54
Stoning? Well, when we were kids, we WISHED they would only stone us ... zbdent Jun 2012 #8
Only way Republicans want you to get stoned is if they're throwing them at you. n/t OnlinePoker Jun 2012 #14
How many more states has the Ayn Rand cult taken from the Republicans? longship Jun 2012 #6
Is this going to be any more than a sideshow? sweetloukillbot Jun 2012 #9
As I understand it they aren't technically bound to vote for any given candidate under party rules. D23MIURG23 Jun 2012 #11
I don't know. Today's report on IA states otherwise. longship Jun 2012 #12
Maybe its a caucus vs. primary thing sweetloukillbot Jun 2012 #18
Neither. These are state Rep conventions longship Jun 2012 #22
I think the main purpose relates to the platform. Jim Lane Jun 2012 #26
Its interesting to learn that this tactic helped religious right, but I don't understand... D23MIURG23 Jun 2012 #10
I don't know the answers. That's why I asked. longship Jun 2012 #13
I've heard about incidents in OK and NV D23MIURG23 Jun 2012 #15
Yes, and I agree. Here's what I am thinking... longship Jun 2012 #44
Also Maine. Paul got all but three delegates unc70 Jun 2012 #35
And Ron Paul is heavily tied to the religious right freshstart Jun 2012 #41
Interesting how RP followers say they want to "bring conservatism back to the party". Jamaal510 Jun 2012 #7
Different issues. AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #27
I personally don't buy what Ron Paul says his foreign policy is. freshstart Jun 2012 #32
Yea, Ron Paul is really Dokkie Jun 2012 #38
There hasn't been a Republican convention that was comedy gold for a long time. dimbear Jun 2012 #16
Yep. Might just have to DVR the whole thing. tanyev Jun 2012 #19
Should be interesting. eom tawadi Jun 2012 #23
We'll see if the Paulites live up to their role of useful idiots Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #47
You are correct, but I predict Romney folds up and lets Paul do whatever. dimbear Jun 2012 #50
LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #53
Ayn Rand Iliyah Jun 2012 #17
I think he wants a Mitt Romney/Rand Paul ticket. It would unite the party. freshwest Jun 2012 #20
If Paul endorses Romney, the paulbots will chuck his ass overboard instantly. AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #28
I mean, if Romney selects Rand, Ron will support his son. Why don't you think so? freshwest Jun 2012 #29
Because it will mean endorsing Romney. AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #30
I edited it with links, I still think if not the Paulbots, the other baggers will sign on. freshwest Jun 2012 #33
My guess is that the baggers Dokkie Jun 2012 #39
Sure, that's true. The teabaggers will vote for Romney. AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #46
Progressives in the Democratic Party: Take note. This is how Progressives gained JDPriestly Jun 2012 #21
Great post. think Jun 2012 #24
noted otherone Jun 2012 #31
Careful what you wish for. freshstart Jun 2012 #34
I love it when Paul does crap like this!!! gopiscrap Jun 2012 #25
And splinter the GOP! cbrer Jun 2012 #36
Ron Paul has gone farther in exposing the farce that is our media and democracy in 2012 KurtNYC Jun 2012 #37
I don't buy that freshstart Jun 2012 #40
Ross Perot likely cost Bush Sr his second term KurtNYC Jun 2012 #42
I don't see it that way. freshstart Jun 2012 #43
The real farce is that Paul can't run on the issues Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #48
Ron Paul has pulled this delegate thing with Iowa and is now KurtNYC Jun 2012 #51
Yes, KurtNYC freshstart Jun 2012 #55
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