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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
24. Someone transporting a gun in a car who is liable
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:08 PM
Dec 2017

Does the insurance carrier that you buy for your car have a waiver in it about guns, that you are carrying across state lines. If you buy a new car you have to show proof of insurance end of story, the car will not go off the lot until you prove you have it, in most states you can't operate a vehicle unless you have insurance.

If some whack job brings a gun across state lines and the mode of transportation of getting that gun across state lines is a car, and something happens, who is responsible for that transportation, the owner of the gun, the car insurance carrier which the gun sits in that car, since you have to be responsible to have car insurance for the car.

In least, most states liability insurance is requirement to operate a vehicle in the state just in case something happens, and if something happens, and you have no insurance, well, your house, your wages are now on the line to pay for that incident, if you are liable.

Let me use this example, you go into a mall, and you live in a state that has open carry or concealed BS, and on this property you go into your local auto parts store, and some jerk has a gun on them. Mind you the store has no sign saying no guns allowed or if they are allowed and they are leasing the building from some property owner.
Something happens in that store, and the "guy" or woman pulls out the gun and shoots and hits someone, something happens.
Who is liable, the mall property owner or the auto parts store leasing the building on the property of the mall property for allowing that gun into their store, what does there liability insurance say to who is responsible, where is the sign that says guns are allowed or not allowed, the car insurance carrier which the person was riding in to get to that store.

Lets say there are other stores on the property, and there is a bank, go and ask them if you can bring a gun into the bank, or other stores on the property, or does the property land owner of the mall which the bank sits are they responsible, after all they are leasing the building from the property owner of the land which it sits, after all, you now have a right to bring a gun transported by car from another state into a bank because this bank is affiliated with your bank in the state you live, or if someone just walks right on in with a gun strapped on there hip, now that it's just fine and dandy to have on concealed or not concealed, by this new act of BS.

I went into auto store, and while I was there some asshole brought in his gun in the auto parts store, he was at the register, like I was, I looked over at the cashier and asked is this person paranoid, with him standing right there, why did he bring is gun into the store, to express his second amendment right, that is not a right, that is infringing on my right.


How do I know that he isn't going to rob the place, does this item on his hip make him more manly, is it that this person has a inferiority complex, just so they can go around and carry one.

See if he can go into bank with one, see what happens.

Remember the young man in Minneapolis, he even told the officer he had a permit for the gun, and he was shot, where is the sign saying no guns allowed or if they are allowed on the store front, does the property owner of the mall responsible for not having a sign the store on which I was in, who is liable for this jerk bringing the gun into that store, who is liable.

If you want to transport or own a gun, then my contention to this matter, is that you should have liability insurance just to operate and own that gun, just like a car or truck, you want that gun that bad, then be liable for having one, and if anyone does not have insurance for that gun, then you can't have one, then just like what was said in the previous conversational paragraphs, your liable for your own the situation.

What happened in Nevada, that hotel is going to be sued, they are going to pay into there lack of responsibility, they had no sign on the front door, saying no guns allowed, its that simple, it's just car insurance either you have it or you don't, and gun owner should be held responsible, either you have or you don't-----------------regulate that gun with insurance for its operation by the owner.

I hate Guns

I have seen my principle laying on the ground dead, and two other human beings wounded, when I was in grade school over 54 years ago.

I was told that my best friend was shot dead over ten dollars, 35 years ago


Liability insurance is the regulation of that weapon and remember your car can be used as a weapon


Have a nice day




so much for state rights.........I thought republicans love state rights Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #1
gun humper cowards' rights trump state rights Skittles Dec 2017 #2
I think you should kick some ass in DC Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #7
acknowledging that "law abiding" gun toters WorkDoctor Dec 2017 #3
There's plenty of cases of people crossing state line with firearms to specificaly "get" someone. marble falls Dec 2017 #9
Like the curious case of Bryan Moles Brother Buzz Dec 2017 #17
Guns should only be allowed in the halls of Congress, and only for the spectators. How does that still_one Dec 2017 #4
sounds very good Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #5
I am not surprised at anything that occurs anymore still_one Dec 2017 #6
Louie Gohmert voted no? alp227 Dec 2017 #8
Note that six Democrats voted "aye" sl8 Dec 2017 #11
Gohmert has a video on his House site, explaining his vote. sl8 Dec 2017 #14
The 3 PA Rs in your list are in (gerrymandered) swing districts BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #10
He voted no because it didn't give the NRA enough jmowreader Dec 2017 #18
That's what I speculated as the only thing that makes sense. nt BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #20
Why is this different from requiring states to honor driver licenses demopilot Dec 2017 #12
Simple really angrychair Dec 2017 #13
All 50 (57?)states and DC have a CCL system. oneshooter Dec 2017 #16
Very few people pull out a wedding ring and start shooting jmowreader Dec 2017 #21
True, but that isn't really an answer. demopilot Dec 2017 #25
Full faith and credit means something different marylandblue Dec 2017 #27
Youd be surprised at the number of things that doesnt apply to jmowreader Dec 2017 #28
A lot of people thought the whole nation should be exempt demopilot Dec 2017 #30
How many people have died from same-sex marriage? jmowreader Dec 2017 #31
Not true. Guns are designed to propel a projectile. demopilot Dec 2017 #34
Vermont legalized same-sex marriage September 1, 2009. sl8 Dec 2017 #32
I sit corrected. Quite a few people opposed both of those, demopilot Dec 2017 #33
Not at all similar. Driver Licenses are required to operate a motor vehicle. Fla Dem Dec 2017 #23
Nonsense. Marriage is not a necessity of life. demopilot Dec 2017 #29
Rights cannot be expanded the notion is ignorant nonsense. J_William_Ryan Dec 2017 #15
So I have to ask, these individuals that go across state lines in a car, truck turbinetree Dec 2017 #19
Your post suggests you don't understand how car insurance works. ManiacJoe Dec 2017 #22
Someone transporting a gun in a car who is liable turbinetree Dec 2017 #24
My Michigan permit allows me to conceal carry in 40 states Kaleva Dec 2017 #26
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