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karynnj

(59,508 posts)
167. You may be conflating three different things - the voter records, the email list and the donor lists
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:20 PM
Jan 2018

The DNC data base contains the list of voters, updated with information of how they stand on a given election. In the primaries, this usually contained info on whether they intended to vote and in the primary (and was it the Democratic primary) and if so who they favored. Every campaign I called or canvased for had a pretty similar scale where you indicated how strong that preference was. In the general election, it was the information was similar. That information was helpful for GOTV, but it had long term value as well.

( I don't know how well it was used because - at least in Morris County NJ, the number of inaccurate records where people had moved, changed phone numbers etc was pretty high. I wonder if they really did use our info on that to clean the files after the election.)

Stop dividing the party Bernie! mchill Jan 2018 #1
Yep, and he shouldn't expect to be on Dem ballots either if there's no sharing. brush Jan 2018 #25
and NO DNC$ samnsara Jan 2018 #52
What if he runs as an Independent? He would receive many votes that would Sophia4 Jan 2018 #78
Who's scolding anyone but Sanders for not sharing his emails if... brush Jan 2018 #80
The entire argument is just silly. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #83
Seems like you have no idea how this started. brush Jan 2018 #84
Hopefully the Democratic Party will have a new list by that time. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #85
Then what's the problem with Sanders' sharing it? brush Jan 2018 #86
It's really up to Sanders. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #89
The point is that if the lists are combined, there won't be Sanders or Hillary... brush Jan 2018 #91
Because the D Party has someone on KPN Jan 2018 #144
Of course it's an issue or Sanders' camp wouldn't have raised it. brush Jan 2018 #146
Aside from having a skewed view of the facts, KPN Jan 2018 #147
The Democrats are the party that always pulls the economy out of the repug depressions... brush Jan 2018 #148
It's not about recessions. Haven't you heard? KPN Jan 2018 #157
You must know most of the info in you first graph was because of repug policies, right? brush Jan 2018 #158
The Repugs certainly had a lot to do KPN Jan 2018 #161
Some good points in your first graph. As far as Sanders, he could've been a strong force in the... brush Jan 2018 #163
Probably right. But he may not have been KPN Jan 2018 #166
The Point Is Me. Jan 2018 #151
Yeah, I remember. They broke thru the DNC server firewall. brush Jan 2018 #159
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #107
The Democratic Party has had two years to attract those voters. appal_jack Jan 2018 #98
So you are saying Sanders voters are not Democrats? Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #102
The Dem party is not the one saying they won't share their email list. brush Jan 2018 #130
Win back...are you implying Bernie voters didn't vote for Hillary? I don't think that is true...and Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #101
Bernie most certainly did vote for Hillary, but a lot of his supporters did not -- Sophia4 Jan 2018 #104
Really I was told by earnest Sanders supporter that this was not the case. However, Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #133
Many Hillary supporters do not realize that the most important difference between Sophia4 Jan 2018 #141
I don't agree with you at all. And those Berniecrats who didn't vote for Hillary can fuck themselve Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #152
And Hillary lost in spite of a 3 million vote margin because not enough Democrats Sophia4 Jan 2018 #155
Yet in one CA district Bernie voters are challenging an incumbent California Congressman mchill Jan 2018 #139
And the Berniecrats constantly talk about how the traditional Democrats shut them Sophia4 Jan 2018 #140
That attitude is destroying our democracy. It's just handingvthe country to totalitarians. yardwork Jan 2018 #134
bernie should get ZERO support from the DNC unless he pays for it as he is not a democrat nt msongs Jan 2018 #2
how many dnc resources were used in his Democratic campaign? niyad Jan 2018 #3
The Entire Democratic Primary? TomCADem Jan 2018 #20
The primary is not "resources". KPN Jan 2018 #145
No resources used for party primaries? Really? TomCADem Jan 2018 #160
Does DNC spend on primary candidates directly? Bradical79 Jan 2018 #164
And after the dems let you ride on their coat tails in 2016 shame on you Fullduplexxx Jan 2018 #4
Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #5
+1,000,000 livetohike Jan 2018 #10
There will be new, younger candidates who we won't have the feeling... brush Jan 2018 #27
Here we go again. kstewart33 Jan 2018 #6
DNC magical free vehicle you can hop on every 4 years delisen Jan 2018 #7
who expects anything different coming from sanders?? I surely don't, if its not about him, he beachbum bob Jan 2018 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #15
Is anybody really surprised? comradebillyboy Jan 2018 #9
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This message was self-deleted by its author GaryCnf Jan 2018 #93
Fuck this shit. Bernie keeps living down to my expectations. (nt) Paladin Jan 2018 #12
Sanders working hard to elect Trump. Again. beastie boy Jan 2018 #13
Yep! Sen Sanders is having his ego stroked and he once again will TheDebbieDee Jan 2018 #127
They made a mistake when they didn't require that when they allowed him to run pnwmom Jan 2018 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #18
He certainly had no qualms taking from the DNC to boost his campaign. procon Jan 2018 #16
Weaver has a point, but should have stated it much better and he should have offered to send an emai karynnj Jan 2018 #17
Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #21
Link please - that sounds pretty much like a conspiracy theory karynnj Jan 2018 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #42
In other words, you have no legitimate source -- and all of your posts on this thread are refighting karynnj Jan 2018 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #57
The chairman of Michigans Democratic Party, Brandon Dillon, in a comment to Politico downplayed Cha Jan 2018 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #71
Thanks. Bernie had his own list, as Hillary had hers. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #81
Yikes. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #95
In California a lot of them are listed on the voter rolls. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #99
Wow. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #109
I've done it for years. We campaign for candidate by going from door to door. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #125
We only have Democratic lists...we do not call on others. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #137
In my neighborhood, I go door to door because we are mostly blue. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #143
We have list that can even tell if the person early voted. We go out and ask them if hey need a ride Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #150
During the Obama campaign, our call lists included Independents. progressoid Jan 2018 #165
Independent voters are not registered with any party. They're unaffiliated lapucelle Jan 2018 #128
Thanks. You are so right. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #129
Interesting. I suppose you remember that Bernie was allowed to run as a Dem, and that he... Hekate Jan 2018 #135
+ 1 Million Me. Jan 2018 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #48
Here's Something Else I Don't UNderstand Me. Jan 2018 #50
We don't. Didn't need him then & we will never need anything from him. Wwcd Jan 2018 #58
YEP Me. Jan 2018 #59
Thank you, ME Wwcd Jan 2018 #63
Why are we not allowed to criticize Bernie here? Hell, were I allowed to I would have Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #77
THese Are Questions For The Universe At Large Me. Jan 2018 #92
A well reasoned, well written response. The Polack MSgt Jan 2018 #23
Thanks for the comment and the Monty Python link! karynnj Jan 2018 #35
Weren't Bernie and his supporters calling for Unity? mcar Jan 2018 #26
It depends on the best way to get out a Democratic message karynnj Jan 2018 #29
That could be mcar Jan 2018 #31
So, essentially the DNC would have someone managing the Sanders email list and sending out messages karynnj Jan 2018 #36
So it's OK for Hillary's list but not Bernie's? mcar Jan 2018 #38
I said absolutely nothing about Hillary or her email - so no double standard karynnj Jan 2018 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #45
You have still not given a single source that backs your contention nt karynnj Jan 2018 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #49
Just combine the Dem list with the Sanders list, one list. Not complicated. brush Jan 2018 #131
Most of the people on Bernie's list are probably already on the Democratic Party's Sophia4 Jan 2018 #82
No need to be negative in order to make the basic point that Sanders could send an email to his list Justice Jan 2018 #64
You are reading the negativity into what I wrote karynnj Jan 2018 #162
Karynnj, that is the best statement ever. Thank you. nt Hekate Jan 2018 #136
He talks out both sides of his mouth.... Historic NY Jan 2018 #19
+ a million. Wwcd Jan 2018 #22
So much for unity, eh Bernie? mcar Jan 2018 #24
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Jan 2018 #30
Shocked.. Cha Jan 2018 #67
So in other words.. disillusioned73 Jan 2018 #32
amen. shanny Jan 2018 #34
Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #33
You are accusing DUers are being bots and Russians because they're mad Sanders pnwmom Jan 2018 #37
LOL, does the Jack stand for JPR? FSogol Jan 2018 #39
Who made Weaver (or Bernie) the decider about whether people on list would support a Democrat? Justice Jan 2018 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #55
Why is Sanders still protected at DU? These aren't the actions of an ally. They're much more.... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2018 #43
That's a damn good question. Considering his purpose in the campaign was for "Money & Media". Wwcd Jan 2018 #62
Good question! R B Garr Jan 2018 #69
just great. hello trump 2020! samnsara Jan 2018 #51
It's 2018, not 2016... pecosbob Jan 2018 #53
Yes... 2018 mid-term just around the corner. Gotta keep focused on flipping InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #56
We can, question is will Bernie and Weaver. Justice Jan 2018 #60
When Bernie accepted the use of the DNC database, he agreed to share his own database pnwmom Jan 2018 #72
Then Sanders should not run for the nomination of the party he's disrespecting. lark Jan 2018 #54
Good Sherman A1 Jan 2018 #61
Correct left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #65
Bernie and all candidates who used the DNC database agreed to share their own databases pnwmom Jan 2018 #75
Maybe Bernie thinks ... left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #87
Then he must have forgotten about how his team went tip-toeing pnwmom Jan 2018 #88
"he fired the ringleader" left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #106
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #108
OMG ! ? left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #113
"Maybe he can give it to his friend Nina" left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #115
Sorry won't playback. Wwcd Jan 2018 #117
If he were honorable he would have lived up to his agreement with the DNC pnwmom Jan 2018 #118
And Donna backed off of that lie. The false putin/Assange rigged primary meme is dead emulatorloo Jan 2018 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #111
Was there an agreement to share, specifically, DONOR information? Jim Lane Jan 2018 #103
No, the Bernie people EXPLORED Hillary's site, opening the doors, walking in, pnwmom Jan 2018 #119
You may be conflating three different things - the voter records, the email list and the donor lists karynnj Jan 2018 #167
No, it was clear from the written contract. The voter contact information that BERNIE collected pnwmom Jan 2018 #168
Weaver's comment was about the EMAIL list -- not "voter information" karynnj Jan 2018 #171
No, the DNC only had the original info in the database. Information that Bernie pnwmom Jan 2018 #172
The DNC information was the VOTER database karynnj Jan 2018 #173
The emails were part of Bernie's proprietary information and he agreed to share it all pnwmom Jan 2018 #174
Reading comprehension helps -- look at your top highlighted sentence - karynnj Jan 2018 #175
Precisely Sherman A1 Jan 2018 #132
So you would reneg on a commitment that you made when you accepted the use of the DNC database. pnwmom Jan 2018 #74
"That works to improve the Database for EVERYONE" left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #122
Donna Brazile's book-selling hype didn't live up to the reality. Hillary had signed TWO contracts pnwmom Jan 2018 #123
OK left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #124
Based on this thread, when the shit gets stirred... Beartracks Jan 2018 #66
This. ms liberty Jan 2018 #94
Bernie would be better served with a spokesperson other that Hothead Weaver. emulatorloo Jan 2018 #97
That GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #120
Yep emulatorloo Jan 2018 #154
The chairman of Michigans Democratic Party, Brandon Dillon, in a comment to Politico downplayed. Cha Jan 2018 #68
The river flows both ways, Jeff Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #73
WHAT the FUCK! Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #76
Thanks for the link, ER Cha Jan 2018 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #114
Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #79
The hate machine rolls on Devil Child Jan 2018 #90
Weavers a frigging gaffe machine. There would be fewer alledged Hit Pieces if Weaver would stick emulatorloo Jan 2018 #100
Sanders lost the primary. His voters wasupaloopa Jan 2018 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Jan 2018 #116
Why would he? OnyxSharpie Jan 2018 #121
Then Bernie should not be allowed to run Dawson Leery Jan 2018 #126
That doesn't sound very socialist. ucrdem Jan 2018 #138
I was a big Bernie supporter, but this just isn't right. Vinca Jan 2018 #142
Only matters in states where the primary candidates could keep their own lists afer the primary. haele Jan 2018 #149
Sore loser. nt LexVegas Jan 2018 #153
One would expect an Outreach Chair lapucelle Jan 2018 #156
Thank you, Sen. Sanders! RandiFan1290 Jan 2018 #169
Good harun Jan 2018 #170
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