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NotHardly

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20. History and human stupidity repeat themselves
Mon May 4, 2020, 06:39 PM
May 2020
https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence

When the Spanish flu first appeared in early March 1918, it had all the hallmarks of a seasonal flu, albeit a highly contagious and virulent strain. One of the first registered cases was Albert Gitchell, a U.S. Army cook at Camp Funston in Kansas, who was hospitalized with a 104-degree fever. The virus spread quickly through the Army installation, home to 54,000 troops. By the end of the month, 1,100 troops had been hospitalized and 38 had died after developing pneumonia.

From September through November of 1918, the death rate from the Spanish flu skyrocketed. In the United States alone, 195,000 Americans died from the Spanish flu in just the month of October. And unlike a normal seasonal flu, which mostly claims victims among the very young and very old, the second wave of the Spanish flu exhibited what’s called a “W curve”—high numbers of deaths among the young and old, but also a huge spike in the middle composed of otherwise healthy 25- to 35-year-olds in the prime of their life.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141

But three weeks after that celebration of removing their masks, the city saw a dramatic resurgence. Officials at first rejected the idea of reopening the city and suggested residents could voluntarily wear face coverings.

But shortly after the New Year in 1919, the city was hit with 600 new cases in one day, prompting the Board of Supervisors to re-enact the mandatory mask ordinance. Protests against the mandate eventually led to the formation of the Anti-Mask League. The detractors eventually got their way when the order was lifted in February.

San Francisco’s ambivalence to quarantine measures ran counter to other U.S. cities, though. Navarro said Los Angeles, for instance, implemented strict social distancing and face coverings about a week before San Francisco did and its measures stayed in place for weeks longer.

Many cities often became complacent once they saw a dip in cases, and when a resurgence happens residents often question the public health guidance.

"They were flattening that curve; they just weren't realizing it," Navarro said. "A lot of people thought, ‘Well, what did we go through that for? It did have an impact, they just didn't know it."

As Dr. Anthony Fauci aid in March, 2020 "If it looks like you're overreacting, you're probably doing the right thing."
We're not getting out of this without 240K dead. Minimum. Initech May 2020 #1
And, once again, this is because of the "re-open everything!!!" demands from conservatives... regnaD kciN May 2020 #5
Yup SouthernCal_Dem May 2020 #12
History and human stupidity repeat themselves NotHardly May 2020 #20
Don't Make any Plans Until About 2022 Stallion May 2020 #2
And that's assuming we still have anything left after this. Initech May 2020 #6
...Or Anybody has a Job Stallion May 2020 #9
Or there is anybody, period RVN VET71 May 2020 #23
The range they're now specifying is between 95,092 and 242,890... regnaD kciN May 2020 #3
Thanks! SouthernCal_Dem May 2020 #4
Hey, we're starting to roll bucolic_frolic May 2020 #7
But ya are, Blanch. Ya are. Squinch May 2020 #11
IHME. Squinch May 2020 #8
OMG yes. Pobeka May 2020 #13
Also, apparently, they include no epidemiological information in their modeling. Squinch May 2020 #14
It's true. I looked at their documentation and source code. Pobeka May 2020 #15
Whenever I have made fun of them, I have said that I am suspicious of Squinch May 2020 #16
So Trump and his economic lackey inside the white house were putting in there "own" turbinetree May 2020 #10
I use common sense and am staying inside. BigmanPigman May 2020 #17
They definitely don't give a shit if we live or die. nt SunSeeker May 2020 #19
I think that number is optimistic as to many Trump supporting nutjobs refuse to take this as cstanleytech May 2020 #18
We Will Be At 135,000 By July 4th. Then What? n/t DallasNE May 2020 #21
Blue Angels flyovers, of course! hatrack May 2020 #22
Fun With Numbers ProfessorGAC May 2020 #24
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