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NickB79

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28. As the son of a farmer, this post really doesn't understand farming at all
Sun May 22, 2022, 08:36 AM
May 2022

Last edited Sun May 22, 2022, 09:59 AM - Edit history (1)

For example, most farms are so specialized in the US that they do not even have wheat-planting equipment, or enough extra seed if they wanted to grow more of it. You can't plant wheat with a corn planter, and you can't build out the equipment supply overnight. You also don't buy $100,000 of new equipment on a hunch. AND, wheat requires a different combine head than corn or soy at harvest. That alone is another $100,000. There's already a hot market for used farm equipment, because manufacturers like John Deere are encountering the same parts disruption issues auto makers are. Modern tractors and combines use a crap load of computer chips.

And most farmers lock in their prices a year before, signing contracts for product, ordering seed, ordering fertilizer. You contract X bushels of corn last fall? You plant corn this spring, or take a serious hit economically.

Crop production isn't something you flip a switch on. It takes years to move the needle outside the typical soy/corn rotation in the Midwest, where we still have land that's not drought-ridden. And by then, Ukraine may be free again, and flooding the market with wheat. US farmers would lose their farms in the commodity crash

Flour hoarding begins in 3... 2... 1... truthisfreedom May 2022 #1
I stocked up months ago. Igel May 2022 #11
You sound well-prepared Marthe48 May 2022 #41
It'll be temporary. Igel May 2022 #57
Thank you for the reassurance Marthe48 May 2022 #59
same here gay texan May 2022 #56
25 lb. bag of wheat was added to my CostCo shopping list. n/t aggiesal May 2022 #15
We will be using six dollar gas to drive to buy ten dollar bread. Chainfire May 2022 #2
I've got 6 million 1923 Deutsche marks Marthe48 May 2022 #43
I have a $100T Zimbabwe note. roamer65 May 2022 #65
Is that 100 trillion? Marthe48 May 2022 #67
Yup 100 trillion dollars. roamer65 May 2022 #68
Here are the 10 countries with the most wheat production: DURHAM D May 2022 #3
I believe India dweller May 2022 #4
Since they are not in the top ten exporters, Mr.Bill May 2022 #5
#2 dweller May 2022 #7
#2 of producers, yes, but not even in the list of exporters, which was the point being made. Rabrrrrrr May 2022 #27
India is going through an extreme heat drought wnylib May 2022 #31
Why India Just Limited Wheat Exports DURHAM D May 2022 #6
Climate change is killing their wheat crop IronLionZion May 2022 #8
Just for clarity, that 2nd list is value in dollars muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #21
+10 Thanks nt reACTIONary May 2022 #48
I think Canada produces, and exports, more wheat per capita than any other country Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #24
lol Lets do the Macaroni DURHAM D May 2022 #34
Apart from Lithuania and Latvia, from the list in #21 muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #50
Cool! Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #55
K n R ! Thanks for posting another... JoeOtterbein May 2022 #9
Last time this happened (winter of '47), all the celiacs marybourg May 2022 #10
+1. You found the positive in all this. Hoyt May 2022 #13
Corn and rice flours might become more important now. wnylib May 2022 #32
Farmers are planning on planting more soy than corn womanofthehills May 2022 #63
Plant corn the way that Native Americans did it. wnylib May 2022 #64
"exports" is the key consideration. Running out of exported wheat doesn't affect all countries. Pobeka May 2022 #12
They will export it if they can get a higher price ToxMarz May 2022 #14
But the price of wheat will skyrocket in the US Kablooie May 2022 #17
We could regulate that if we had a functional Congress... NullTuples May 2022 #19
About 70% of US wheat is winter wheat radical noodle May 2022 #30
Yes, the headline is extremely negative, wrong and must have been designed to be click-bait. machoneman May 2022 #44
Admittedly, it won't be a devastating situation for most of the world. 70sEraVet May 2022 #49
"Wrong"? No, that's hasn't been shown , at all muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #51
145 countries are net importers of wheat muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #52
While wheat scarcity is a real issue in parts of the world, this smacks of market manipulation. Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #16
I tend to agree with you Farmer-Rick May 2022 #29
I am heading out to buy toilet paper. twodogsbarking May 2022 #46
I'm guessing that as soon as there was a threat Igel May 2022 #58
You can bet McConnell and his rats are meeting, and talking about how to make this worse. C Moon May 2022 #18
and blame Biden Demovictory9 May 2022 #26
And Clinton, then Obama, then Pelosi.................................... machoneman May 2022 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author luvtheGWN May 2022 #60
No. They're meeting to figure how to luvtheGWN May 2022 #61
I'm just glad Big Oil does not control wheat production. KY_EnviroGuy May 2022 #20
Only if you think that oil prices have no bearing on wheat production and delivery costs... Ford_Prefect May 2022 #22
Or the planting and harvesting thereof. callous taoboy May 2022 #23
Also, many pesticides are petroleum based and making fertilizer uses lots of natural gas Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #40
I posted this a month ago regarding what is a bit of a distortion of reality BumRushDaShow May 2022 #25
As the son of a farmer, this post really doesn't understand farming at all NickB79 May 2022 #28
You can't be serious. twodogsbarking May 2022 #33
Shocking, right? NickB79 May 2022 #35
'Shocking, right?" BumRushDaShow May 2022 #37
"this post really doesn't understand farming at all" BumRushDaShow May 2022 #36
No, I understand all that NickB79 May 2022 #38
We are on the same page BumRushDaShow May 2022 #39
The Biden admin. seems to be leveraging a cash incentive here. Akoto May 2022 #70
Russia is not in Europe. luvtheGWN May 2022 #62
"Russia is not in Europe." BumRushDaShow May 2022 #66
We do not import Ukrainian wheat. No need to hoard anything. Just please stop Lettuce Be May 2022 #42
Just please stop thinking that if the USA is OK, then the USA can't talk about a world problem muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #53
I'm more worried about the millions of poor in Third World nations that will starve to death NickB79 May 2022 #54
I bought a bunch of pasta, rice, and beans imavoter May 2022 #47
Funny flour story: I ordered from Kroger last night Marthe48 May 2022 #69
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