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BumRushDaShow

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41. That's the "problem" with the Fourth Amendment
Fri Jun 2, 2023, 04:16 PM
Jun 2023

you have to narrow down where you plan to look and what you are looking for. For example, what was originally listed in the MAL search warrant (pg 3 at the link) - https://embed.documentcloud.org/documents/22131380-trump-warrant-uns/?title=1&embed=1

ATTACHMENT A

Property to be searched

“The premises to be searched, 1100'S Ocean Blvd, Palm Beach, FI. 33480, is further described as a resort, club, and residence located near the intersection of Southern Blvd and S Ocean Bid. It is described as a mansion with approximately 58 bedrooms, 33 bathrooms, on a 17-acre estate. The locations to be searched include the “45 Office,” all storage rooms, and all other rooms or areas within the premises used or available to be used by FPOTUS and his staff and in which boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate. It does not include areas currently (i.c., at the time of the search) being occupied, rented. or used by third parties (such as Mar-a-Largo Members) and not otherwise used or available to be used by FPOTUS and his staff, such as private guest suites.


They would need some kind of layout of Bedminster to determine where they think things may be kept (and what). Having an "insider" (Bedminster employee willing to cooperate) would be helpful.

So again for example, from the MAL document, the items to seized were shown as this (same link as above but pg 4) -

ATTACHMENT B

Property to be seized

All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 793, 2071, or 1519, including the following

a. Any physical documents with classification markings, along with any containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are located, as well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the aforementioned documents and containers/boxes;

b.. Information, including communications in any form, regarding the retrieval, storage, or transmission of national defense information or classified material;

c. Any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021; or

d. Any evidence of the knowing alteration, destruction, or concealment of any government and/or Presidential Records, or of any documents with classification markings


The problem is that they might not know "all" of what is missing if there were that many items from DOD (which usually does the classified markings). When you had security people "installed" by 45 who forced through Top Secret clearances to criminals like Kushner and Patel, then who knows what the heck they took and whether any of them followed any semblance of procedures. DOD might still be going through what was registered and chain of custody - but that would have to be done for stuff over the period of 4 years.
Search his diaper bag Wicked Blue Jun 2023 #1
He maybe flushed it down the gold potty.... n/t lastlib Jun 2023 #48
Come on. Any idiot knows he sold them. Autumn Jun 2023 #2
Head to Bedminster with a shovel. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #3
Check the coffin No Qs Jun 2023 #22
I don't get it.... RussBLib Jun 2023 #40
GMTA - time to exhume Ivana lastlib Jun 2023 #49
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jul 2023 #54
Did they look in the Crown Prince's tent? C_U_L8R Jun 2023 #4
How hard did they look? RockRaven Jun 2023 #5
Why. Is. He. Not. In. Custody! GenXer47 Jun 2023 #6
Check. Ivana's. Grave. bluevoter4life Jun 2023 #7
At this point, I wonder who else is in there? Marthe48 Jun 2023 #10
This Beachnutt Jun 2023 #18
I haven't seen this picture Marthe48 Jun 2023 #32
So many Docs in one heavy casket StClone Jun 2023 #34
paper is heavy. mopinko Jun 2023 #36
Precisely my thought Wild blueberry Jun 2023 #11
possible locations underthematrix Jun 2023 #8
Maybe it was worth $2B? COL Mustard Jun 2023 #51
28 months and counting republianmushroom Jun 2023 #9
Maybe trump is already blackmailing the US Government Beachnutt Jun 2023 #19
Has anybody checked Saudi Arabia or Moscow? Funtatlaguy Jun 2023 #12
Saying he couldn't show it to them (in the tape) was a tease to jack up the price. NH Ethylene Jun 2023 #13
maybe trump was just Bragging. He is great at that. riversedge Jun 2023 #14
So why haven't they searched Bedminister, where Trump discussed it? nt pnwmom Jun 2023 #15
Because when they did MAL BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #20
i dont understand how the trove at mal isnt probably cause to search every damn 1 of his properties. mopinko Jun 2023 #37
That's the "problem" with the Fourth Amendment BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #41
he Snackshack Jun 2023 #16
"Why the DOJ sat on its hands for months and then more months" BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #28
There you go ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #45
Not sure that applies. Snackshack Jun 2023 #46
"Not sure that applies." BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #47
Thank you for the information However, I don't understand ... Novara Jul 2023 #55
To reply BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #56
What you're essentially saying is that ... Novara Jul 2023 #57
And to reply BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #58
Well, this is intersting: Novara Jul 2023 #59
I give you credit for reading through all that BumRushDaShow Jul 2023 #60
Exactly. And if he hasn't done it yet, that surely was his plan-- Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2023 #29
They did steal other stuff. Snackshack Jun 2023 #50
Jesus' Holy balls. Grins Jun 2023 #17
Might be why DOJ asked for his Saudi biz records A MONTH AFTER THEY ASKED FOR THE IRAN DOC... wiggs Jun 2023 #21
Good linkage, thanks for posting this. JudyM Jun 2023 #26
How is this fucker walking free? If that were ANYONE ELSE they'd be locked up long ago. onecaliberal Jun 2023 #23
Ask General Milley - he saw the plan and rejected it, so we're told FakeNoose Jun 2023 #24
Did Jared not get a receipt? LudwigPastorius Jun 2023 #25
+1 OverBurn Jun 2023 #27
There's no telling whether the document mentioned in the recording even exists. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #30
I suspect the golden toilets have all been checked. Maybe it Ilsa Jun 2023 #31
2.5 billion lets bring in Kusher.....and the gang.....and ask some questions.... turbinetree Jun 2023 #33
Have they checked with Pootie? Vinca Jun 2023 #35
Open the coffin Geraldo. sarcasmo Jun 2023 #38
"Trump on Thursday said he didn't know anything about the summer 2021 meeting...." riversedge Jun 2023 #39
They caught Trump red handed with stolen classified docs, but were too afraid of Trump to look Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #42
Trump attorneys are just as corrupt as he is. DUar17 Jun 2023 #43
The dog ate their homework? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2023 #44
Hmmm... ck4829 Jun 2023 #52
NO! zanana1 Jun 2023 #53
Saudis have them Mysterian Jul 2023 #61
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