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17. May I ask you an honest question, with no insult intended? (nt)

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NBC: Snowden’s father floats terms for son’s return [View all] bemildred Jun 2013 OP

LOL!! DCBob Jun 2013 #1

Wow, was not expecting this..interesting, to say the least. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #2

Probably not a good idea to expect much of anything at this point. bemildred Jun 2013 #5

Agree, and this is getting more intense with each passing day. Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #10

A frenzy of butt-covering, spin, and catcalls mostly. bemildred Jun 2013 #11

True enough, worse to come imo. His father, I can't help but wonder if he is Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #16

Yeah, he leaves questions, but that is likely on purpose/necessary. bemildred Jun 2013 #20

Absolutely hunting him and why I wonderd if the father is trying to arrange something, regardless Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #51

I think he's just worried about his kid. Nothing else to it. nt bemildred Jun 2013 #52

+1. - Lots of Pig Squealing and Little Fleece n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #41

Given Snowden's propensity for grabbing the spotlight for himself... randome Jun 2013 #39

Mr. Snowden is stuck in the airport in Moscow and is being given the spotlight by our dumbass media. bemildred Jun 2013 #46

Terms? BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #3

The father wants to make a deal... Historic NY Jun 2013 #4

Maybe he watched an Ellsberg interview and learned how he was treated think Jun 2013 #19

Ellsberg didn't attempt to flee the country hack89 Jun 2013 #23

LOL. Snowden watched Binney, Drake, and Weibe and got smart about think Jun 2013 #24

Just explaining why Snowden will be locked up if he comes home. hack89 Jun 2013 #25

And I was just explaining why Snowden, as a whistleblower had no other VIABLE options think Jun 2013 #29

Perhaps - but right now he is running out of options. hack89 Jun 2013 #31

running to China & Russia were viable options? uhnope Jun 2013 #81

Apparently they were compared to what Manning has endured here in the free land.... think Jun 2013 #83

Right, Snowden's passport has been revoked and he would be returning to the U.S. HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #28

You don't think Wikileaks and other such groups wouldn't hesitate to help him flee? hack89 Jun 2013 #30

For two weeks, this site has been full of pious cries that Snowden is a 'coward' HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #32

The World Court does not have jurisdiction. nt hack89 Jun 2013 #33

Hee-hee. Well, at the moment, the U.S. does not have HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #34

They will get him eventually - the entire world has turned their backs on Snowden. nt hack89 Jun 2013 #35

Famous last words. Maybe you'd like to retract? Venezuela HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #60

Unfortunately he cannot get to Venezuela hack89 Jun 2013 #61

Last time I checked, Venezuela maintained diplomatic relations with the Russian Federation and HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #62

Russia has said that Snowden cannot enter Russia hack89 Jun 2013 #65

beats getting waterboarded and worse. eom ellenfl Jun 2013 #70

Yeah, and the Bruins will win the Stanley Cup. wtmusic Jun 2013 #76

Low blow! Can't you respect our grief? nt hack89 Jun 2013 #77

It was a tough way to lose wtmusic Jun 2013 #79

There is the International Court of Justice, but that would be highly unlikely davidpdx Jun 2013 #36

The ICC does not have jurisdiction either. hack89 Jun 2013 #37

Yeah that's what I was thinking, but I wasn't 100% sure davidpdx Jun 2013 #48

They're just pissed Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #42

I suppose there is some of that atavistic nonsense at work here. I always HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #45

Actually, it is pretty much that simple. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #54

"this site has been full of pious cries that Snowden is a 'coward'" Thats odd. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #50

and pious cries that he's a brave young man hero dissident blah blah uhnope Jun 2013 #82

Look at the number of people who sneak over the border into the US treestar Jun 2013 #55

Thank you for citing her. She needs to be remembered among all these others. nt ancianita Jun 2013 #68

His son won't return unless promised flamingdem Jun 2013 #64

Of course he's going to come back alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #6

Perhaps, but why would he want to come back? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #58

wow warrior1 Jun 2013 #7

Interesting, his father's claim: Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #8

I trust the honorable Eric Holder to do whatever is constitutionally acceptable, as he always has.nt graham4anything Jun 2013 #9

Jesus, how smarmy. bitchkitty Jun 2013 #13

I wish Eric was on SCOTUS instead of Clarence Thomas. THomas an insult to Thurgood Marshall's memory graham4anything Jun 2013 #14

May I ask you an honest question, with no insult intended? (nt) Heidi Jun 2013 #17

there is no question and there is no question. graham4anything Jun 2013 #21

Terms? Botany Jun 2013 #12

they should also promise not to "Hastings" his car n/t Enrique Jun 2013 #15

What the hell does that even mean? nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #80

This is hilarious--what is it about some people that they think, when their ass is MADem Jun 2013 #18

Yes, it's damn funny watching the media and others behaving as if his father is legit agent askeptic Jun 2013 #86

The father isn't inventing these demands, I don't think. MADem Jun 2013 #87

the only thing he has to trade are the files Nancy Waterman Jun 2013 #22

A Guardian article reported that he had other files distributed around the world. Thousands. ancianita Jun 2013 #69

Its been reported the files have already been sucked up by the Chinese and the Russians. DCBob Jun 2013 #78

Tell The Justice Dept.. raindaddy Jun 2013 #26

Damage has already been done. There's really not much father or son can negotiate with. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #27

Will or May? This story sounds suspicious. Oops! NBC has already changed something in the story Catherina Jun 2013 #38

The government propaganda organs are in quite a tizzy, eh? bemildred Jun 2013 #40

It's been breath-taking to see it so unfinessed due to panic and unrestrained anger Catherina Jun 2013 #43

And this bullshit propaganda is all over the world now. Look how it has *grown* Catherina Jun 2013 #66

Excellent catch. There's a mile of linguistic difference between HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #44

Thank you HardTimes99 Catherina Jun 2013 #47

Why would he get to dictate any of this? Renew Deal Jun 2013 #49

Just like Julian does treestar Jun 2013 #56

Not dictate -- negotiate. The Stranger Jun 2013 #73

He doesn't. We could have his ass tomorrow if we traded for him. MADem Jun 2013 #88

They're going to get him anyway, Lonnie. Your boy fucked up. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #53

This may have something to do with being a kid during the cold war coloring my opinion........... wandy Jun 2013 #57

Designate Snowden as a banker or Wall Street CEO. The Justice Department won't touch him! KansDem Jun 2013 #59

Even with a signed agreement or a court order, what would make him think the U.S. government would The Stranger Jun 2013 #63

totally agree olddad56 Jun 2013 #67

Fuck him - he's in no place to dictate the terms of his son's return Politicub Jun 2013 #71

Maybe not dictate, but certainly negotiate. The Stranger Jun 2013 #72

Or negotiate. I think he's doing his son a disservice Politicub Jun 2013 #74

Classic psyops/Mafia move - when you don't have a target, get the next best thing: their family. wtmusic Jun 2013 #75

I bet the folk at Justice had a good giggle over these antics. I bet their official response, if any mulsh Jun 2013 #84

Come home! Turbineguy Jun 2013 #85

Interesting … 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #89

interesting Sunlei Jun 2013 #91

Won't happen ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #94

I expect Snowden to hire an agent for his book deal KinMd Jun 2013 #90

He's exceeded his purpose at this point tonekat Jun 2013 #92

Don't hate frontier00 Jun 2013 #93