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36. There is the International Court of Justice, but that would be highly unlikely

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:57 AM

Jun 2013

As the idea of negotiating the US wouldn't agree to the terms and he won't come back anyway so it's quite ridiculous for him or his family to say he is willing to come back. Most likely Ecuador will given him asylum and that will be the end of it.

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NBC: Snowden’s father floats terms for son’s return [View all] bemildred Jun 2013 OP

LOL!! DCBob Jun 2013 #1

Wow, was not expecting this..interesting, to say the least. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #2

Probably not a good idea to expect much of anything at this point. bemildred Jun 2013 #5

Agree, and this is getting more intense with each passing day. Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #10

A frenzy of butt-covering, spin, and catcalls mostly. bemildred Jun 2013 #11

True enough, worse to come imo. His father, I can't help but wonder if he is Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #16

Yeah, he leaves questions, but that is likely on purpose/necessary. bemildred Jun 2013 #20

Absolutely hunting him and why I wonderd if the father is trying to arrange something, regardless Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #51

I think he's just worried about his kid. Nothing else to it. nt bemildred Jun 2013 #52

+1. - Lots of Pig Squealing and Little Fleece n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #41

Given Snowden's propensity for grabbing the spotlight for himself... randome Jun 2013 #39

Mr. Snowden is stuck in the airport in Moscow and is being given the spotlight by our dumbass media. bemildred Jun 2013 #46

Terms? BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #3

The father wants to make a deal... Historic NY Jun 2013 #4

Maybe he watched an Ellsberg interview and learned how he was treated think Jun 2013 #19

Ellsberg didn't attempt to flee the country hack89 Jun 2013 #23

LOL. Snowden watched Binney, Drake, and Weibe and got smart about think Jun 2013 #24

Just explaining why Snowden will be locked up if he comes home. hack89 Jun 2013 #25

And I was just explaining why Snowden, as a whistleblower had no other VIABLE options think Jun 2013 #29

Perhaps - but right now he is running out of options. hack89 Jun 2013 #31

running to China & Russia were viable options? uhnope Jun 2013 #81

Apparently they were compared to what Manning has endured here in the free land.... think Jun 2013 #83

Right, Snowden's passport has been revoked and he would be returning to the U.S. HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #28

You don't think Wikileaks and other such groups wouldn't hesitate to help him flee? hack89 Jun 2013 #30

For two weeks, this site has been full of pious cries that Snowden is a 'coward' HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #32

The World Court does not have jurisdiction. nt hack89 Jun 2013 #33

Hee-hee. Well, at the moment, the U.S. does not have HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #34

They will get him eventually - the entire world has turned their backs on Snowden. nt hack89 Jun 2013 #35

Famous last words. Maybe you'd like to retract? Venezuela HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #60

Unfortunately he cannot get to Venezuela hack89 Jun 2013 #61

Last time I checked, Venezuela maintained diplomatic relations with the Russian Federation and HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #62

Russia has said that Snowden cannot enter Russia hack89 Jun 2013 #65

beats getting waterboarded and worse. eom ellenfl Jun 2013 #70

Yeah, and the Bruins will win the Stanley Cup. wtmusic Jun 2013 #76

Low blow! Can't you respect our grief? nt hack89 Jun 2013 #77

It was a tough way to lose wtmusic Jun 2013 #79

There is the International Court of Justice, but that would be highly unlikely davidpdx Jun 2013 #36

The ICC does not have jurisdiction either. hack89 Jun 2013 #37

Yeah that's what I was thinking, but I wasn't 100% sure davidpdx Jun 2013 #48

They're just pissed Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #42

I suppose there is some of that atavistic nonsense at work here. I always HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #45

Actually, it is pretty much that simple. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #54

"this site has been full of pious cries that Snowden is a 'coward'" Thats odd. cstanleytech Jun 2013 #50

and pious cries that he's a brave young man hero dissident blah blah uhnope Jun 2013 #82

Look at the number of people who sneak over the border into the US treestar Jun 2013 #55

Thank you for citing her. She needs to be remembered among all these others. nt ancianita Jun 2013 #68

His son won't return unless promised flamingdem Jun 2013 #64

Of course he's going to come back alcibiades_mystery Jun 2013 #6

Perhaps, but why would he want to come back? Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #58

wow warrior1 Jun 2013 #7

Interesting, his father's claim: Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #8

I trust the honorable Eric Holder to do whatever is constitutionally acceptable, as he always has.nt graham4anything Jun 2013 #9

Jesus, how smarmy. bitchkitty Jun 2013 #13

I wish Eric was on SCOTUS instead of Clarence Thomas. THomas an insult to Thurgood Marshall's memory graham4anything Jun 2013 #14

May I ask you an honest question, with no insult intended? (nt) Heidi Jun 2013 #17

there is no question and there is no question. graham4anything Jun 2013 #21

Terms? Botany Jun 2013 #12

they should also promise not to "Hastings" his car n/t Enrique Jun 2013 #15

What the hell does that even mean? nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #80

This is hilarious--what is it about some people that they think, when their ass is MADem Jun 2013 #18

Yes, it's damn funny watching the media and others behaving as if his father is legit agent askeptic Jun 2013 #86

The father isn't inventing these demands, I don't think. MADem Jun 2013 #87

the only thing he has to trade are the files Nancy Waterman Jun 2013 #22

A Guardian article reported that he had other files distributed around the world. Thousands. ancianita Jun 2013 #69

Its been reported the files have already been sucked up by the Chinese and the Russians. DCBob Jun 2013 #78

Tell The Justice Dept.. raindaddy Jun 2013 #26

Damage has already been done. There's really not much father or son can negotiate with. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #27

Will or May? This story sounds suspicious. Oops! NBC has already changed something in the story Catherina Jun 2013 #38

The government propaganda organs are in quite a tizzy, eh? bemildred Jun 2013 #40

It's been breath-taking to see it so unfinessed due to panic and unrestrained anger Catherina Jun 2013 #43

And this bullshit propaganda is all over the world now. Look how it has *grown* Catherina Jun 2013 #66

Excellent catch. There's a mile of linguistic difference between HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #44

Thank you HardTimes99 Catherina Jun 2013 #47

Why would he get to dictate any of this? Renew Deal Jun 2013 #49

Just like Julian does treestar Jun 2013 #56

Not dictate -- negotiate. The Stranger Jun 2013 #73

He doesn't. We could have his ass tomorrow if we traded for him. MADem Jun 2013 #88

They're going to get him anyway, Lonnie. Your boy fucked up. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #53

This may have something to do with being a kid during the cold war coloring my opinion........... wandy Jun 2013 #57

Designate Snowden as a banker or Wall Street CEO. The Justice Department won't touch him! KansDem Jun 2013 #59

Even with a signed agreement or a court order, what would make him think the U.S. government would The Stranger Jun 2013 #63

totally agree olddad56 Jun 2013 #67

Fuck him - he's in no place to dictate the terms of his son's return Politicub Jun 2013 #71

Maybe not dictate, but certainly negotiate. The Stranger Jun 2013 #72

Or negotiate. I think he's doing his son a disservice Politicub Jun 2013 #74

Classic psyops/Mafia move - when you don't have a target, get the next best thing: their family. wtmusic Jun 2013 #75

I bet the folk at Justice had a good giggle over these antics. I bet their official response, if any mulsh Jun 2013 #84

Come home! Turbineguy Jun 2013 #85

Interesting … 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #89

interesting Sunlei Jun 2013 #91

Won't happen ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2013 #94

I expect Snowden to hire an agent for his book deal KinMd Jun 2013 #90

He's exceeded his purpose at this point tonekat Jun 2013 #92

Don't hate frontier00 Jun 2013 #93