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PatrickforO

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Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:46 AM Jan 2019

Some Dems float idea of primary challenge for Ocasio-Cortez [View all]

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) has infuriated colleagues by aligning with a progressive outside group that’s threatening to primary entrenched Democrats. Now some of those lawmakers are turning the tables on her and are discussing recruiting a primary challenger to run against the social media sensation.

At least one House Democrat has been privately urging members of the New York delegation to recruit a local politician from the Bronx or Queens to challenge Ocasio-Cortez.

“What I have recommended to the New York delegation is that you find her a primary opponent and make her a one-term congressperson,” the Democratic lawmaker, who requested anonymity, told The Hill. “You’ve got numerous council people and state legislators who’ve been waiting 20 years for that seat. I’m sure they can find numerous people who want that seat in that district.”

The New York delegation has eyed Ocasio-Cortez with skepticism ever since last summer when the 29-year-old self-described democratic socialist shocked the political world and defeated then-Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.) in what many thought would be a sleepy primary race. Crowley, a Queens powerbroker and affable House Democratic Caucus chairman, had been considered a possible future Speaker.


https://thehill.com/homenews/house/427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez

Somehow I don't think these anonymous ones are going to have much luck. Unfortunately, real democracy happens when people at the local level have a real say in policies that affect them. If someone purports to represent the interests of those people, but does not actually do so, then what should the people do?

I don't know much about the 'outside group' that AOC is aligned with, but I do know people on the ground are getting pretty fed up, and in poorer districts downright revolutionary. If we want to right this giant ship called the United States, then we are going to have to have a real plan to address global warming, and to redistribute wealth around human need rather than human greed.

I write a lot and have often told conservatives to just throw the middle class a bone - give us single payer healthcare and strong old age pensions. Then, I've gone on, you can screw us for another 75 years, just like the Republicans ate away the New Deal for the last 75 years.

See, if change doesn't happen fast enough, then this is what we'll see. Now I'm sure many of you will feel downright outraged I've even put this out, but my point is this: If groups like this have arisen, then it seems the mainstream party must find a way to bring them into the tent, not fight them, because fighting them won't work. They'll just get bigger and be more of a thorn in the side.

I'm thinking we all need to take a page from AOC's book and begin a real concerted effort to educate people around these complex issues instead of relying on corporate-owned media's 8-second sound bytes. Americans ARE capable of understanding things like why the primacy of the shareholder is like a corrosive acid that eats away at the very fabric of our society. They are capable of understanding why we should repeal the giant tax cut for billionaires and corporations. They are capable of understanding why taxes aren't a bad thing unless they go for things that don't actually help the people who pay them.

Well...blast away, I guess...
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I can understand people opposed to her policy positions running against her. David__77 Jan 2019 #1
What policy positions of hers don't you like? watoos Jan 2019 #9
I like her. David__77 Jan 2019 #18
Agree. Running for office per se is democracy in action. Hortensis Jan 2019 #51
The very last thing Democrats need is Democrats taking out Democrats. democratisphere Jan 2019 #2
But the Just Democrats are planning on doing the same thing to other Democratic officeholders Gothmog Jan 2019 #26
Hell. Russia never had it so good. democratisphere Jan 2019 #29
Isn't that what she did in 2018, not only primarying Joe Crowley but also actively campaigning.... George II Jan 2019 #38
Sometimes the enemy comes from within as appears to be the case here. democratisphere Jan 2019 #39
She is a breath of fresh air I like her TEB Jan 2019 #3
I'd be disappointed in a backroom effort to primary her. Do think she's a bit out-front right now, Hoyt Jan 2019 #4
Old boys club zipplewrath Jan 2019 #5
Did an "old boys club" primary Joe Crowley or is an "old boys club" planning to primary... George II Jan 2019 #40
No zipplewrath Jan 2019 #43
"Them"? I'm a Democrat, I speak in terms of "we". George II Jan 2019 #44
That's pure speculation. George II Jan 2019 #47
Even worse zipplewrath Jan 2019 #48
we should not primary her lapfog_1 Jan 2019 #6
Funny how that wasn't a consideration last year when she primaried Joe Crowley in that District. George II Jan 2019 #42
She is educating voters. We need more of that. doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #7
Her district primary had very low voter turnout, no one thought she would win Thekaspervote Jan 2019 #8
Ummmm .... she won by a 15 point margin (57.5-42.5%). In the GE she carried 78% of the KPN Jan 2019 #19
In a district with 235,000 registered Democrats she won the primary by 4,000 votes. George II Jan 2019 #41
It means that in the GE, of the votes cast for her vs Crowley, she took 92+%. KPN Jan 2019 #45
Well, we can go one step further then - of those who cast their votes for her she got 100% George II Jan 2019 #46
Blah, blah, blah. She trounced him in the primary. 15 points. KPN Jan 2019 #49
So, why was that? There's a primary in June AND another in September in PatrickforO Jan 2019 #52
It's not the doing of the Democratic Party and it didn't only happen only in the 14th District: George II Jan 2019 #53
Goose & Gander Me. Jan 2019 #10
It's Dem. 1 anonymous person. watoos Jan 2019 #13
Still Stands Me. Jan 2019 #15
True. But on one hand, there are those who challenge the status quo as something that KPN Jan 2019 #17
Doesn't Change The Equation Me. Jan 2019 #21
Equation? Lol. There is no equation in primarying her. No conformist is going to outpace her KPN Jan 2019 #22
The Inconvenient Truth Me. Jan 2019 #24
Oh brother. "The Inconvenient Truth". KPN Jan 2019 #28
LOL Me. Jan 2019 #30
Lol. KPN Jan 2019 #32
Impressive Me. Jan 2019 #33
... mcar Jan 2019 #36
Another article from The Hill, watoos Jan 2019 #11
Here is what I don't cogitate, this quote: violetpastille Jan 2019 #12
AOC has what Al Franken had, watoos Jan 2019 #16
Thank you for this excellent post PforO. I agree 100%. KPN Jan 2019 #14
!?!?!!?! FiveGoodMen Jan 2019 #20
I like AOC and want more members of Congress to openly support her but I disagree with your comment in2herbs Jan 2019 #23
"My hope for the future is in our youth" FiveGoodMen Jan 2019 #37
K&R Gothmog Jan 2019 #25
Boy The Hill really hates AOC HopeAgain Jan 2019 #27
Way too early for this JustAnotherGen Jan 2019 #31
K&R Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #34
AOC is playing in the majors now and she knows it RandySF Jan 2019 #35
Good luck with that one. zonkers Jan 2019 #50
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