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16. It ruined his chance at the presidency. I'd say his career from 2004 to 2009 was impressive
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 07:50 PM
Jan 2023

I knew Howard before his run for the White House, and we remain friends. The "scream," by the way, was deliberately enhanced by the U.S. media. The print media still seemed to like him. TV (as well as a goodly portion of our own party) seemed scared and intimidated by him, and seemed to want him dead and buried, which is pretty much what they accomplished. But his time as DNC chair, with his 50 state strategy, seemed like the golden days of Democrats in opposition. What Howard accomplished in those four years was nothing less than Moses leading the children out of the desert.

I asked him in February 2009 what he would do if Rahm Emmanuel cheated him out of the HHS Secretary position that he so richly deserved. He said that if that happened, he would join some law firm for name recognition (for them) and some steady income (for him), and then spend the rest of his time "raising hell for causes he cares about." Two of the main causes he cares about, other than lending his wisdom to Democratic candidates and the occasional talk show/news show appearance, are human trafficking and environmental issues.

He has already helped organize and participated in a march from Bangkok to the Burmese border to bring attention to human trafficking. By the way, except for me, I don't recall anyone on DU ever mentioning that. And in the early days when Bernie Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Sanders was in league with some developers that wanted to build up some park land near the lake, which Howard opposed. Howard wanted the park to remain undeveloped, reserved for public use. Howard won that dispute, and Sanders didn't speak to him for four years. Howard managed to survive the experience.

One Scream Ruined His Career [View all] Quixote1818 Jan 2023 OP
I always felt this was ridiculous XanaDUer2 Jan 2023 #1
I feel like the Democratic Party did not fight back hard enough on this. japple Jan 2023 #2
I'm convinced the Democratic Party was behind it. The party Establishment rejected him from go. hedda_foil Jan 2023 #4
I agree. elleng Jan 2023 #6
I feel the same. n/t whathehell Jan 2023 #14
Same here Rebl2 Jan 2023 #15
Big media kept replaying the scream without the crowd noise, their fault elias7 Jan 2023 #3
I knew who you meant before I opened it. SergeStorms Jan 2023 #5
It was later reported, and shown, that the scream was accentuated by the television broadcast..... EarnestPutz Jan 2023 #7
Little good it did Repugs. Dems had such a strong candidate in Kerry - Bush had to CHEAT him to win! peppertree Jan 2023 #8
Kinda like the guy in the tank.......ah, Michael Dukakis. a kennedy Jan 2023 #9
A lot of people there Buzz cook Jan 2023 #20
Why wasn't THIS guy's career ENDED? MagaSmash Jan 2023 #10
Exactly! nt Quixote1818 Jan 2023 #13
Not unlike adding an "e" to potato. twodogsbarking Jan 2023 #11
A lot worse, actually. n/t. whathehell Jan 2023 #17
I can remember the Real Concerned newscasters' "Questions about Howard Dean's mental health" NBachers Jan 2023 #12
It ruined his chance at the presidency. I'd say his career from 2004 to 2009 was impressive DFW Jan 2023 #16
the media enhanced it. because he said break big media BEFORE the election. pansypoo53219 Jan 2023 #18
Well that and saying he'd bring back the Fairness Doctrine Buzz cook Jan 2023 #19
I don't know; for Kerry they invented "Swiftboating" & the GOP became the party it is today Hekate Jan 2023 #25
The media response ruined his career. I have a friend who was there -- Hekate Jan 2023 #21
..and whatshisname riding in the tank with the hat on. such a little thing to judge a candidate on BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 2023 #22
Trump climbed into a big ol' twuck and went "Voom-voom!" As potus. Hekate Jan 2023 #23
yep. double standard. God forbid if Obama had done 10% of the stuff that Trump does BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 2023 #24
Exactly. sl8 Jan 2023 #26
"The Dean Scream: What Really Happened" - FiveThirtyEight and ESPN Films sl8 Jan 2023 #27
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