Catalonia independence leaders on trial in Madrid

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4. That is a bit of a mess of a reply but I'll try

I don't believe anything, I go by facts and history of which Catalonia's is well documented, wiki is a good start but other sources are available.
I also think the question is irrelevant, certainly to me anyway and despite the noise from both sides of the argument if you are still arguing about the middle ages then it's time to move on.
I also don't particularly care so there is that but I do care when abuses of human rights happen so there is that too.

Why USA? What would happen in China or Russia? Just as irrelevant really.
ECJ should be the only ones whom that question should be asked and it'll be likely they will get a hearing at least,it will probably get dismissed and if we are lucky a few recommendations which Spain will ignore and we are all back to square one.

And for clarity, I don't have a side on this. I don't care if Catalonia secedes or stays, it's not my problem. The argument of saying legally you can't secede is dodgy at best and at worse(although almost totally unlikely) is how wars start.
The PP manufactured this shit show of a problem, made things inherently worse than what they were which wasn't great to begin with and frankly we can all do without this being dragged on for years to Spain's detriment.