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2016 Postmortem

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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:07 AM Jan 2016

Why hillary's sudden embracing of Obama isn't a winning tactic. [View all]

hillary Clinton made an interesting comment regarding Bernie Sanders during the debate tonight:

"He's criticized President Obama for taking donations from Wall Street."


I'd say he'd be absolutely right to do so. I'm not sure how calling this out is suppose to be a winning argument. That aside, she's trying to take the high ground by placing Obama on a pedestal, and, in essence, saying if you attack him, you're the bad guy.

Interestingly, she can be seen here attacking Obama over taking donations... the very thing she said Bernie shouldn't do:



That alone pokes a few dozen holes in that over inflated argument.

However, in the words of the immortal Billy Mays: But wait! There's more!

Here's hillary during the prior election, speaking words that are amazingly true... and damning.

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The key phrase spoken by hillary while attacking Obama;

"...cant find political cover or have words speak louder than actions".


The problem is, her own actions are comparatively far from laudable. She's been trying to distract away from the fact that big banks contributed to her campaign... she's used numerous methods, up to and, amazingly, including the invocation of 9/11.

She's made questionable deals with foreign leaders to get donations to the Clinton foundation.
She helped put together the TPP, praised it 45 times and called it the gold standard.
She's been part of the anti-marriage equality crowd.
She voted in favor of the Iraq war.
She's had classified documents and other governed-work related e-mails on her private server.
She's taken money from the big banks ad other corporate interests.

There is a whole laundry list of her actions speaking much louder than her usual word-plays. This is just a fraction of them... even if we discount the inevitable claims that a few on the list are "GOP talking points", there are tons more. Most of them legitimate.

But, I digress... lets continue with the rest of the train-wreck that was her attack on Bernie:

"And President Obama has led our country out of the great recession."


Remember when I said she was putting him on a pedestal? That was it, right there. Not that it wasn't true... but it's meant to be a point of comparison for a politically-expedient lie:

"Senator Sanders called him weak, disappointing..."


This is a fabrication. Bernie did call Obama's negotiation with the GOP weak, not Obama himself. A minor distinction, but an important one. I know of very few who would disagree that Obama used kid-gloves with the GOP for quite a while. After Obama took off the kid-gloves the economy really started coming around. You can see the original comment here:



That's what the hubbub is about.
Hardly the grand hay-maker to knock Bernie Down.
Barely even a love tap, for that matter... and certainly not a winning argument.

Go Bernie!
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She's under investigation by the FBI. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #1
O'Malley called her out perfectly on this. cui bono Jan 2016 #2
I don't think the overlords were quite ready for that from O'Malley. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #6
NBC certainly wasn't. cui bono Jan 2016 #10
Here it is. azmom Jan 2016 #13
Sweet, thanks. cui bono Jan 2016 #14
Kick! Nt Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #3
Obama is a corporatist because he is funded by them. Helen Borg Jan 2016 #4
Nonsense. President Obama is the reason Obamacare & Dodd-Frank was pushed through Congress. Green Forest Jan 2016 #7
Nonsense. He installed Wall Street in the WH right after being elected. cui bono Jan 2016 #11
She's evolving. merrily Jan 2016 #5
I don't get how anyone can stand her. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #8
Romney was so out of touch he looked innocent thereismore Jan 2016 #12
I thought he looked kinda mean Kalidurga Jan 2016 #15
He was mean and didn't know it. Yes. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #21
Hillary Clinton basically IS the Mitt Romney of the late 90's/ early 2000's Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #17
That was back when he had a good idea. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #18
Two X chromosomes. That's important to some people, thereismore Jan 2016 #22
But her binder is full of... cui bono Jan 2016 #19
Hillary's binder is full of polling and focus group data... Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #20
Embracing Obama isn't a good way to get Sanders supporters to back her. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #9
To bring Obama into that was so low. azmom Jan 2016 #16
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