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2016 Postmortem

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ancianita

(36,059 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:08 AM Feb 2016

Media Try to Make Hillary's Telling A Secret Service Agent To "Fuck Off" A Campaign Issue [View all]

First, as a Bernie supporter, I will say this: when it comes to the Secret Service, Hillary's got nothing to prove.

Second, since when is the Secret Service's two cents about any presidential candidate relevant at all.

Third, if Secret Service personnel's opinions are so important, then they should have to comment on all the presidential candidates whom they allegedly protect.

Fourth, in case you don't think sexism's no-win double standards have begun, they have.

Let's get this straight.

It is a rule of service that Secret Service are not free to speak to any -- ANY -- member of the president's family -- not male OR FEMALE -- until spoken to. I know because I know someone who was in the Secret Service.

It's perfect common sense. If the president always all day had to speak back when spoken to in passing he couldn't hear himself think. Same for the First Lady. Or the kids. Or the grandma. Or West Wing work teams.

This Secret Service agent was not stupid or forgetful of rules. This was knee-jerk male harassment to breach her space and thoughts. It was like telling any woman nearby to "Smile!" under cover of some polite remark. It was bullshit. I don't blame her for telling the presumptuous asshole to fuck off.

Let's wake the fuck up and decide what trifling means.

Hillary is "difficult"?? A "nightmare"?? The New York Post and social media can fuck off for setting off this trifling to sell papers. If it gets campaign traction it will be a rallying cry to women.

I've never heard criticism of male candidates' past language from twenty years ago, have you? No. Because we don't have to be told that it should never enter into voters' considerations in any presidential race. Until a woman runs.

I'll say it again: anyone hired to protect any world leader should be told to fuck off if they speak out of turn.

Hillary's got nothing to prove. Is she "part of the Establishment" or isn't she?! If so, then the "proof" of "manners," "language style" or "bearing" is as irrelevant for her as it is for any male leader.

I can see now that if the Secret Service has revealed this to some newspaper, Hillary will need an all-woman Secret Service detail if she is to be respected and protected.

Secret Service are hired to be "invisible." They should stay that way.

http://nypost.com/2015/10/02/secret-service-agents-hillary-is-a-nightmare-to-work-with/

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Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #1
this would be the FDR who died in the arms of his mistress dsc Feb 2016 #2
Hah...goddess forbid Hillary ever, ever do what FDR got away with. ancianita Feb 2016 #14
OMG - you want to talk "mistresses" when the Clintons are involved????? Vinca Feb 2016 #29
Hillary had mistresses I would love to see a link to that dsc Feb 2016 #31
The article is gossip and lies metroins Feb 2016 #6
Maybe not FDR, but I'm sure HST said this to his agents - and others - a time or two Empowerer Feb 2016 #9
You're obviously not getting the point. SS would not break the "no speak" rule to FDR. ancianita Feb 2016 #13
I wouldn't have been that nice. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #3
It's the New York Post. What do you expect? Bonobo Feb 2016 #4
Sexist bullshit thrives on talk shows and second tier media. Trying to head it off is a good thing. ancianita Feb 2016 #22
Why give this Fox News piece any exposure? metroins Feb 2016 #5
If it was posted before, please explain why media are dragging it forward again. Enough is enough. ancianita Feb 2016 #19
What media? metroins Feb 2016 #20
It IS old. But it's still circulating. Two Occupys and individuals keep it moving. Ugh. ancianita Feb 2016 #36
I consider it old, trash bin news nt metroins Feb 2016 #41
Better question ... Damn the media! ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #33
I hear you. Trying only to drag forward my call on its bullshit premises before it gets traction. ancianita Feb 2016 #34
I'm a Sanders supporter, and this story sounds like grade-A abso-fucking-bullshit. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #7
Great Bernie priorities. I'm directing my ire at anyone who goes for bullshit that has to end NOW. ancianita Feb 2016 #16
"Secret Service are not free to speak..." Android3.14 Feb 2016 #8
You damned well know what I mean. There's a preliminary signal and no chit-chat noise. ancianita Feb 2016 #17
Actually, no. I do not know what you mean Android3.14 Feb 2016 #24
Reread my response. Presidents always know SS are nearby; they don't have to know where. ancianita Feb 2016 #26
Consider deleting this steaming pile of right wing shit cali Feb 2016 #10
I agree Android3.14 Feb 2016 #12
Translation: "Hillary isn't a good girl" Empowerer Feb 2016 #11
Doesn't seem like much of a stretch pipoman Feb 2016 #15
THAT's rich. "Little people" is her mindset? Don't add to the trifling mentality of right wing media ancianita Feb 2016 #18
Yes, it's why she cant beat a 73 year old Jewish socialist... pipoman Feb 2016 #21
she won Iowa. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #27
lol pipoman Feb 2016 #28
so if a team wins a game 101 to 100 they didn't win dsc Feb 2016 #32
A presidential primary isn't a game and doesn't represent a win pipoman Feb 2016 #44
BS this is a made up thing treestar Feb 2016 #40
Actions speak louder... pipoman Feb 2016 #45
Ha, ha, ha, ha jehop61 Feb 2016 #23
Thank you. Let's put this media bullshit to rest. ancianita Feb 2016 #25
Next they'll dig up Vince foster gwheezie Feb 2016 #30
We're posting Murdoch gossip now? n/t mattclearing Feb 2016 #35
"Gossip" depends on the intended audience. To re-frame recurring shit flinging isn't itself gossip. ancianita Feb 2016 #37
I agree with your post. mattclearing Feb 2016 #42
As a Bernie supporter I don't care about this type of stuff. It smells like National Enquirer grade GoneFishin Feb 2016 #38
not credible anyway treestar Feb 2016 #39
This nonsense made the rounds here in the Fall mcar Feb 2016 #43
Yep! The SS would just think it was an OK to start hitting the strip clubs again! nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #48
As fellow Sanders supporter, I mostly agree, but when Texas Gov. Perry said "Adios, Mofo," it was a Vote2016 Feb 2016 #46
George McGovern's final nail (1972) telling a jerk, "I've got a secret for you, kiss my ass!" nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #47
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