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2016 Postmortem

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H2O Man

(73,558 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:28 AM Feb 2016

Nobody Told Me [View all]

“There’s Nazis in the bathroom just below the stairs.”
-- John Lennon; Nobody Told Me


This past weekend, I was talking with some young adults, who will be eligible to vote for the first time, about presidential campaign history. While I assume that most of them have been aware of “politics” before reaching the age of 18, there is no question in my mind that they are passionately engaged in learning much more about how the system is intended to work …..as well as how it actually works.

Now, in the context of my participation on DU:GDP, community members know that I am a firm supporter of Senator Bernie Sanders. More, that I have been clear that I will definitely vote for our party’s nominee in November. Still, for the sake of conversation, I should acknowledge that the voters that I was speaking with are all supporting the Sanders’s revolution. But I hope that this OP will nevertheless be of interest to everyone on this forum.

A number of events in two of the three Democratic primaries have concerned these young adults. The specific events are being discussed on the internet, and not surprisingly, these young people at a level of using technology far beyond my own; hence, they have more of the specific information than I do -- just as here on DU, younger folks do.

However, one of the few advantages of being old is having experienced previous elections, and remembering previous controversial campaign activities. When people of my generation hear about certain behaviors, for example, we’re likely to look at one another, and say, “Rat-fuckers!” This is in reference to programs such as were made famous by the “Committee to Re-Elect the President” (CREEP) in 1972.

Even as recently as 2004, as I wrote about on this forum at the time, I was contacted the morning following a break-in at a “Kerry for President” Democratic Party headquarters in a suburb outside of Philadelphia, PA. Volunteers from a NYS social workers’ union were assisting in running that office, and they immediately contacted me. I asked if they had called the police and press? They had not. I told them that they needed to do so, They said they were afraid to. Think about that.

Such break-ins were also modus operandi of the Nixon team. There were far, far more than documented in the series of crimes commonly known as “Watergate.” More, the corruption of that era wasn’t limited to break-ins, I told these young adults. To show how obscene the republican party was, I spoke of California businessman Robert J. Walter’s role: he funneled White House campaign funds to the head of the Nazi party, to gain their active support for President Nixon’s re-election (see pages 306-308 of the Senate Watergate Report).

What was the consequence of Walter’s slimy activities? He would be rewarded with influence within the Reagan administration, which actually set the bar higher for corruption than did the Nixon gang. This “businessman” -- a petty mobster with ties to the Nazi party -- would influence our nation’s economic policies under Reagan. You can’t make this shit up, I told these university students.

When they asked about the connections between government and organized crime, I recommended that they research two examples. The first, not surprisingly, was the vice presidency of Richard Nixon, specifically concerning the role of the mob and US policy towards Cuba. But, because that may seem like ancient history, I added a more recent example.

Most people are somewhat aware of the case of Boston mobster James “Whitey” Bulger. He was, of course, a sociopath who ruled the Boston underworld for decades. His legend is that he was assisted by one corrupt FBI agent, who he served as an informant for. A recent CNN documentary tells a far more troubling story. Bulger was never an FBI informant. Rather, he employed numerous FBI agents, including some at high levels, as well as a handful of influential Justice Department employees. These government employees, who “earned” salaries of tax-payers’ money, were also employed by Bulger, who paid them higher salaries.

The number of individuals who worked for Bulger first, and for the government second, was so large, that the US Department of Justice refused to address this in Bulger’s recent trial. Indeed, as CNN documented, the Justice Department withheld, and then altered, official documents that indicated how corrupt their system was.

This is, obviously, an extreme example. But if federal government employees can be bought by organized crime, one can reasonably ask what amount of influence can Wall Street buy? And if men like Mr. Walters, with ties to the Nazi party (as documented by the US Senate) works with the Nixon and Reagan administration in setting economic policy, might we not want to reconsider what defines “organized crime?”

The CNN documentary shows that for decades, Bulger knew that he would not be indicted by the federal government, no matter what crimes he committed. None of the Wall Street gangsters responsible for the 2008 economic melt-down were ever prosecuted. Is that perhaps a pattern? Or merely the long arm of coincidence, wrenching itself out of its socket?

Peace,
H2O Man

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Thanks for the post H2O Man - from the quoted lyrics... tk2kewl Feb 2016 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #2
i think your point about the younger generation's use of technology is important tk2kewl Feb 2016 #5
Very good point. H2O Man Feb 2016 #20
If you haven't already read it... tk2kewl Feb 2016 #23
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #25
Now you have me wondering. Gregorian Feb 2016 #3
Right. H2O Man Feb 2016 #26
Thank you H2O man! hootinholler Feb 2016 #4
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #29
Its very unsettling to look that in the face, but we need to. Thanks for another insightful & RiverLover Feb 2016 #6
probably *more* dangerous tk2kewl Feb 2016 #8
True. I think FDR would be immeasurably disappointed in what has become of US. /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #16
Thanks, RiverLover! H2O Man Feb 2016 #31
And what happened to Kennedy always lurks in mind when grassroots pressure is kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #7
Right. H2O Man Feb 2016 #35
So what and how do we accomplish our grassroots kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #38
Your OPs are just the best! Punkingal Feb 2016 #9
Agree. 840high Feb 2016 #32
Thanks! H2O Man Feb 2016 #37
Thank you very much! H2O Man Feb 2016 #36
It was a post by H20 Man, linked on The Smirking Chimp website tblue37 Feb 2016 #51
I remember that H2O Man Feb 2016 #64
Well, I still consider your posts to be one of the main reasons for being on DU. Just FYI. nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #69
kick and thank you... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #10
Simple logic. I like it. cali Feb 2016 #11
Thank you. H2O Man Feb 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Sensitive soul Feb 2016 #46
Kickin like my life depended on it. Thanks H2O Man. jhart3333 Feb 2016 #12
Thank you. H2O Man Feb 2016 #48
Those who look backward tend to lose the national races. malthaussen Feb 2016 #13
good points, thanks grasswire Feb 2016 #27
Well said. H2O Man Feb 2016 #49
Ralph Nader jeepers Feb 2016 #67
k and r for the BIG truth. bbgrunt Feb 2016 #14
Thank you. H2O Man Feb 2016 #50
The NAZIS never surrendered in WW2 the Wehrmacht did Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #15
kick kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #17
Thank you! H2O Man Feb 2016 #65
Strange Days, Indeed. Wilms Feb 2016 #18
most peculiar, mama tk2kewl Feb 2016 #19
Great song! H2O Man Feb 2016 #66
I am listening ... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Sensitive soul Feb 2016 #45
Once again, you've put things into perspective and so eloquently. Thank you! PWPippin Feb 2016 #22
Great OP, thank you. Connect the dots, they're all there...that is Bernie's message. Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #24
H2O man hits it outta the park!! haikugal Feb 2016 #28
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #30
K&R sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #33
Post by H2O Man deserves second or third read. Thoughtful. kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #34
Thank you. K&R myrna minx Feb 2016 #39
K&R AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #41
Sadly this is reminding me more and more of 1968-72 nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #42
It's a puzzler, but I have a theory... malthaussen Feb 2016 #53
Except that the elites severely miscalculated nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #55
Yes, Mr Sanders has destroyed the scenario. malthaussen Feb 2016 #56
Oh he will be. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #57
I do wonder if he is starting to believe his own press. malthaussen Feb 2016 #58
He never intended to drop out nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #59
That Gandhi quote we often see applies... malthaussen Feb 2016 #61
I am in the process of writing my trump victory piece nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #62
You and I have disagreed on many posts in the past (but not all!), but this one definitely... Shandris Feb 2016 #43
Wow. Just Jaw Dropping. 2banon Feb 2016 #44
Unfortunately it's simple math Hydra Feb 2016 #47
kick in the morning! kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #52
The power structure never disliked the Nazis. malthaussen Feb 2016 #54
Correct nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #60
K&R Zorra Feb 2016 #63
Yep. I've got your back Patrick. Many of us anti-fascists just will NGU, will we? bobthedrummer Feb 2016 #68
Great article and a pleasure to read. eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #70
Kick in the evening kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #71
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