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2016 Postmortem

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99th_Monkey

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Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:04 PM Feb 2016

Does Hillary Still Belong to The Family aka The Fellowship? Worse than Goldwater. [View all]

The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power

Did you know that the National Prayer Breakfast is sponsored by a shadowy cabal of elite Christian fundamentalists? Jeff Sharlet's new book, "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power," offers a rare glimpse of this remarkable network, which is known variously as the Family, the Fellowship and the International Foundation.

The Family was founded 70 years ago by Abraham Vereide, a Norwegian immigrant evangelist based in Seattle. In 1935, Vereide said, God appeared to him in a vision and revealed where Christianity had gone wrong: preoccupation with the poor, the weak and the suffering.

The down-and-out were in no position to bring about the Kingdom of God, Vereide realized. ...(God's) new plan was to target men who were already powerful and turn them to God -- and wouldn't you know it, God hated unions, too. ...The Family does not publish membership lists, and its members are sworn to secrecy, so a full accounting is impossible.

Sen. Hillary Clinton has been involved with the Family since 1993 when, as first lady, she joined a White House prayer circle for political wives. Clinton has also sought spiritual counseling from the current head of the Family, Doug Coe. Sharlet argues that Clinton's longtime association with the Family has helped her forge working relationships with powerful religious conservatives such as Family member and anti-abortion crusader Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas. ...

The Family also runs a house on C Street in Washington, D.C. The C Street Center has housed a number of federal legislators, including Sen. John Ensign of Nevada. Residents allege that the center is just a cheap place to live, but as an Ivanwald brother, Sharlet saw firsthand that the center is a religious community. As far as the IRS is concerned, the C Street Center is a church.
http://www.alternet.org/story/87665/worse_than_fascists%3A_christian_political_group_'the_family'_openly_reveres_hitler


Hillary's Nasty Pastorate

The Family's most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer
Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes
on behind the scenes -- knitting together international networks of rightwing
leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the 1940s, The Family
reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that
exemplary leader, Adolph Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole
bestiary of murderous thugs.
As Sharlet reported in Harper's in 2003:

During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government
and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's
postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with
Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American
leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred
thousand "Communists" killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous
dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During
the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S.
government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova,
convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general
Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to
both the CIA and death squads before his own demise.


At the heart of the Family's American branch is a collection of powerful
rightwing politicos, who include, or have included, Sam Brownback, Ed Meese,
John Ashcroft, James Inhofe, and Rick Santorum. They get to use the Family's
spacious estate on the Potomac, the Cedars, which is maintained by young men in
Family group homes and where meals are served by the Family's young women's
group. And, at the Family's frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts
of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already-powerful.


Clinton fell in with the Family in 1993, when she joined a Bible study group
composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When
she ascended to the senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family's
"most elite cell," the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his
downfall, Virginia's notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been
a casual connection for Clinton. She has written of Doug Coe, the Family's
publicity-averse leader, that he is "a unique presence in Washington: a
genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or
faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God."

Furthermore, the Family takes credit for some of Clinton's rightward
legislative tendencies,
including her support for a law guaranteeing "religious
freedom" in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth
control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbara-ehrenreich/hillarys-nasty-pastorate_b_92361.html
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Kr tk2kewl Feb 2016 #1
That would be really fucked up if she were! The Family goes beyond religion, verging on cult. nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #47
What's wrong with being religious? tazkcmo Feb 2016 #2
HA! You almost had me there. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #3
hee hee! tazkcmo Feb 2016 #5
make sure you check in here too tk2kewl Feb 2016 #4
Christians are so unlike their Christ Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #7
tis true erlewyne Feb 2016 #20
Someone, but probably not Ghandi. Pls. see Reply 28 merrily Feb 2016 #29
FYI. No one can find that comment in anything written or said by Ghandi. Attributing it to Ghandi is merrily Feb 2016 #28
Are you pulling a Clinton Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #88
A link? Here are many links. (You really should google before requesting a link.) merrily Feb 2016 #99
NO ONE? Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #90
Yes, no one and your source shows no different, if you read it all. merrily Feb 2016 #98
Is there any indication she ever left? That's probably the better question Arazi Feb 2016 #6
Fair enough. Let's hear from our Hillarian friends about that ... nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #10
Know Your BFEE: The Fellowship 'Preys" for America (Octafish Nov. 6, 2006) bobthedrummer Feb 2016 #8
Dominionsm: Ghost Dog Feb 2016 #89
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #9
I hear that she joined the Stonecutters with Homer Simpson and the lizard people Tarc Feb 2016 #11
Nothing would surprise me what she's been involved in. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #12
I hear Hillarians habitually laugh-off and make light of her odious connections. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #13
Yes they do! It's a defensive response designed to neutralize uneasiness RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #55
That's where she learned her world class CYA tactics. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #14
If you've got evidence to back it up, sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #32
great, MORE Honduran connections MisterP Feb 2016 #15
What did Barry Goldwater say about that? Let's see: longship Feb 2016 #16
OMG! Barry Interesting!! nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #22
Goldwater was, I think, a decent guy. Demoiselle Feb 2016 #26
Goldwater said that? AlbertCat Feb 2016 #45
I have no problem with Hillary evolving. longship Feb 2016 #58
Odd. I thought she belonged to the group "Born Again Capitalists." jalan48 Feb 2016 #17
It's the same thing. sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #34
Another misleading talking point from the BS group. The innuendo carries the day. nt Jitter65 Feb 2016 #18
Which FACTS cited in the articles linked are incorrect in OP? nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #25
So who should we believe, the Hillary Clinton Group or our own lying eyes?* That Guy 888 Feb 2016 #33
Well, the one fact was that Hillary was/is in "The Family" longship Feb 2016 #37
Ha!! :-D (You'll have to do better than that! Time's running out. Tick-tock!) NurseJackie Feb 2016 #19
I'm waiting for the Mena airport thread, myself. nt msanthrope Feb 2016 #83
Stand by ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #85
Next...someone's gonna shoot melons in their backyard.....nt msanthrope Feb 2016 #86
Oh, you! :-) NurseJackie Feb 2016 #87
Several questions come to mind. Mr.Bill Feb 2016 #21
Great questions. Ohly Hillary knows for sure. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #30
No guts? sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #36
Unfortunately has become the norm... here is Obama @ the National Prayer Breakfast JCMach1 Feb 2016 #23
Attending the Prayer Bkfst. is way different than being in The Family's "elite inner-circle" 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 Feb 2016 #97
She really is the Dem version of Mitt FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #24
Serious question, also worth an answer. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #31
Well, I suppose that would be helpful. But we can't even get any transcripts out of her. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #52
She's not a member of the Family, she did pray with them though. Beacool Feb 2016 #35
A secretive, conservative and elite religious group sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #38
The Senate prayer breakfasts are not secretive. Any Senator may attend. Beacool Feb 2016 #66
Of course, all she ever did was go out to breakfast a few times. sulphurdunn Feb 2016 #82
Her faith is important because Jesus would approve the use of cluster munitions in civilian areas! Rilgin Feb 2016 #41
Whatever..... Beacool Feb 2016 #67
Mirror image. You say whatever to anything she has done including cluster munitions. Rilgin Feb 2016 #77
A vote to allow the use of cluster munitions should offend anyone - especially knowing how they polly7 Feb 2016 #80
Yes this is one other clearest of her problem votes. Rilgin Feb 2016 #81
She's not a member of the Family, AlbertCat Feb 2016 #46
Wow, the more stuff like this comes out Merryland Feb 2016 #54
She communities with quite a few religious leaders. Beacool Feb 2016 #68
I read about The Family years ago. Bad bunch for Democrats. Duval Feb 2016 #39
i've heard that she's secretly a vampire MariaThinks Feb 2016 #40
But her activity with the Family is not fantasy. Somewhere jwirr Feb 2016 #96
Which Hillary? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #42
Same old issue different article. No fresh articles supporting Bernie? great white snark Feb 2016 #43
Same old issue? 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #49
Jesus Wept! enough said. Duval Feb 2016 #44
wow togetherforever Feb 2016 #48
You're welcome. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #50
I've always been bothered by that "prayer" breakfast. Vinca Feb 2016 #51
What's interesting is that the Prayer Breakfast is just their public happy face 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #56
Lather, rinse & repeat. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #53
Exactly. One odious connection after another. Drip, drip, drip. Lather, rinse & repeat. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #57
Or an old tired out story that gets brought out every time there's giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #59
I actually had not noticed it before on DU 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #60
I would never have heard about it if I had never found out about DU. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #61
Here's a few... giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #62
Thank you. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #63
Is that "the family" you are referring to? giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #65
Yes. but it's both The Family .. and .. The Fellowship .. it goes by both/either/or .. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #71
Ok, I'm going to look into it & get back to you. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #73
Cool. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #74
Ok, so far I read the article you just sent me & this is what I got so far. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #75
Me too. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #76
I don't doubt there is a lot of dirty creepy shit going on. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #78
The Israel connect is an interesting wrinkle ... 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #79
Hitler attained absolute political power, Ghost Dog Feb 2016 #92
""You guys," David said, "are here to learn how to rule the world." DirkGently Feb 2016 #64
A "genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide" who "openly reveres Hitler" apparently. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #69
Yes they dig Hitler. And they formed to oppose the New Deal. DirkGently Feb 2016 #70
Wow this really is fascinating .. I must say, and more than a little creepy. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #72
I see she's already putting out info for the general election. nt Skwmom Feb 2016 #84
This so called National Prayer Breakfast is where Ben Carson launched his political career BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #91
Thanks for the bit about Ben Carson. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #94
She sickens me more and more every day. Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #93
OMG!! She prays?? She eats kittens too! Lil Missy Feb 2016 #95
Hillarians love to screech about "BernieBros borrowing RW Hillary-hating talking-points" 99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #101
It's allied with the New Apostolic Reformation/NAR, God help US all... bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #100
What a creepy fundy cult that is. She should be ashamed of any association with that right wing sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #102
It is beyond all doubt-a CULT sabrina 1 and it has morphed over the years, and it is SECRETIVE. bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #103
Doubtless some of her elite friends do, 99th Monkey. bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #104
I don't blame them for not wanting to comment 99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #105
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