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apnu

(8,756 posts)
46. Because the GOP are racist, bigoted pricks in AZ.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016

It is what they do. Its their own incompetence and hatred of the "other" resulted in this mess.

Making it hard to get to the polling place in poor and non-white areas solidifies the majority's grip on power. It stuff's down change and progress.

Any Democratic gain in AZ would be progress, and the Republicans can't have that. So to answer your question, the Republicans have more to gain than Hillary at suppression of the vote. Are they sitting around some smoke filled back room cackling about their plan to suppress the vote? Probably not. But their disinterest the plight of non-whites, and the poor, leads them to say "fuck those guys, I don't want to pay for polling places for them in Phoenix" There's the racism and bigotry.

Hillary is good at her job as a politician. She believes keeping her trap shut in this situation is the smartest play. Might not be the play we, the liberal, the progressive, and the Left, want her to play, but its the smart typical political way to go. By being quiet, she gives the Republicans all the rope they need to hang themselves on this issue. And hang themselves they are.

Now Bernie disagrees with that. He's a full throated roar guy, and so are his followers. They shake trees and rage at the storm. That's also right and good to do, but gives the R's less rope to hang themselves. They'll still hang themselves, because they're so inept in Arizona they can't help but do so. And through Bernie's tactic we, on the left, get to have fun shouting about it too. Because if Bernie does it (or any other pol for that matter), that gives us implied permission to do the same.

Consider this, who owns this "computer clearance"? Who has to keep track of party affiliation for Arizona's closed primary system? Who prints the ballots? Who buys and administers the voting machines? The polling places are neutral, its not like the caucus system where parties meet in different locations, these are the actual polling places that are used in every election, be it primary or general.

The answer to that question is the State and the county after that. Since AZ is deep red and Democrats have the smallest of toe-holds there, the systems are controlled by the Republicans. There is no way Hillary Clinton has anything to do with those systems. She or her national staff can't have touched them in any way. As for local Democrats, keep in mind that in Maricopia county out of five board supervisors, four are Republicans. You don't seriously think they are in cahoots with Hillary Clinton do you?

I'm not saying shenanigans didn't occur in Arizona, they did. I'm saying there's "zero chance" Hillary had anything to do with it. It was the Republican controlled government that closed the polling places in the past 4 years. It was the Republican controlled government that holds the computer system that tracks party affiliation, this is all on them.

Conservatives have a history of doing this stuff, one of the ironies of American politics is the Republican's spend a lot of time and energy crowing about how broken our election system is and why we need road blocks to register voters and also to have voter IDs and all that neo-Jim Crow stuff they yammer about, but they're the ones caught when the system goes pear shaped.

And not a word from Hillary ibegurpard Mar 2016 #1
Clinton won AZ, there's no need for scare quotes, and she's not the one geek tragedy Mar 2016 #5
Quote marks are used in lieu of the term "so-called". pacalo Mar 2016 #14
Clinton won AZ. People on the Internet irrationally deny all kinds of facts. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #16
Maybe she didn't win. We'll never know how many Sanders voters were disenfranchised. I would bet ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #21
She should be screaming. PyaarRevolution Mar 2016 #49
The term "scare quotes" doesn't make sense. pacalo Mar 2016 #18
. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #19
DU is the only place I see it. pacalo Mar 2016 #26
you are incorrect, it is not an uncommon phrase geek tragedy Mar 2016 #28
Like launching a cheap husband to the polls Politicalboi Mar 2016 #27
lol, Clenis Interreptus nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #29
How do you know she won? They just held a thoroughly corrupt election. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #41
We know who won. Clinton did. Period. That some Sanders dead enders choose to wallow in absurd geek tragedy Mar 2016 #43
That's not a truthful claim. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #44
You are free to deny reality if you want. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #45
Its in all caps, it must be true! bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #55
Vote suppression occurred, and as a matter of legal fact Hillary Clinton geek tragedy Mar 2016 #60
So you think voter suppression occured without it being a conspiracy? bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #61
yes, Republicans are capable of vote supression and running a poor records geek tragedy Mar 2016 #62
Ok, but you did see how Sanders supporters were disproportionately effected, right? bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #63
no I haven't seen any evidence that there was a targeting of Sanders geek tragedy Mar 2016 #64
The more Bernie supporters accuse Clinton, when it is the GOP responsible, the easier Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #51
I'm not implying Clinton is responsible ibegurpard Mar 2016 #56
Exactly, she is a POLITICIAN, look at what I just told someone else Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #59
Would you expect anything different? This is how she has become so hated. / FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #34
Lol Dem2 Mar 2016 #36
No, she in no way sets the tone for her minions by circumventing rules and ethical standards. Nt JudyM Mar 2016 #39
Does she? Dem2 Mar 2016 #50
It is pure fiction to think Hillary had anything to do with this. apnu Mar 2016 #37
Why oh why SheenaR Mar 2016 #42
Because the GOP are racist, bigoted pricks in AZ. apnu Mar 2016 #46
Winners usually grin, it's losers who usually want a new deal n/t HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #38
Ooooo Doggie GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #2
Yea odd the open primaries where fine Gwhittey Mar 2016 #6
I think deadlines and mistaken memories plague closed primaries more than people want to admit. LonePirate Mar 2016 #12
Well AZ Gwhittey Mar 2016 #15
Our local Board of elections here in rural (red area) Karma13612 Mar 2016 #31
Any registration postmarked or received before the deadline should be accepted. LonePirate Mar 2016 #33
check your registration NOW; why wait until election day? TheDormouse Mar 2016 #47
Oh, you can be sure I will. Karma13612 Mar 2016 #57
Michigan too. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #7
Sounds like a hearty helping of crow deserves to be eaten to me. nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #9
Those who trash whistle blowers are usually guilty ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #22
that's some rare candor nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #3
Sec of State also said the state did not tell the counties TheDormouse Mar 2016 #4
Huh? NV Whino Mar 2016 #24
I'm confused; how do I blame this on HC and DWS? brooklynite Mar 2016 #8
cite something by some anonymous bloggers nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #10
You don't need a reason. DURHAM D Mar 2016 #11
Well if it wasn't someone elses fault then it must be HC and DWS. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #13
Who has blamed HRC or DWS for this? We were told that... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #17
Hillary Clinton's Election Fraud in Arizona Exposed brooklynite Mar 2016 #20
you don't have to blame them ibegurpard Mar 2016 #58
Wow! Provisional ballots will actually be counted! (nt) pat_k Mar 2016 #23
I didn't quote her verbatim; there was some wiggle room in there TheDormouse Mar 2016 #25
Checking registration paper trail... pat_k Mar 2016 #30
so the provisional ballots will be added in? amborin Mar 2016 #32
Hillary's silence places her on the other side of democracy. ViseGrip Mar 2016 #35
She should suspend her campaign, or she hates America!!! JoePhilly Mar 2016 #48
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #40
She needs to spend time in Tent City. EyeOnLife Mar 2016 #52
"It happens sometimes. People just explode." Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #53
They already acknowledged they were hacked! FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #54
This is why I don't want Trump in the General Peachhead22 Mar 2016 #65
Link does not work for me---just commercials...is there text? nt Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #66
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